Topic on User talk:Hautarche
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
This page shows the changes between two versions of a post by Hautarche in the topic "Diabolus Fire Burst notes" on User talk:Hautarche.
You can see other versions of this post at its history page.
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
I got around to playing a mechanitor in 1.5 and noticed that enemy diaboli behave oddly now; they seemed to prioritize using Fire Burst instead of using their Hellsphere Cannon or attempting to close the distance. At first, I thought this was an issue caused by mods. | I got around to playing a mechanitor in 1.5 and noticed that enemy diaboli behave oddly now; they seemed to prioritize using Fire Burst instead of using their Hellsphere Cannon or attempting to close the distance. At first, I thought this was an issue caused by mods. | ||
+ | |||
So I started several Dev Quicktest runs without any mods. In each, I used Dev Mode to place down a diabolus, then I went through various scenarios of pawns attacking them with weapons of different ranges, running past them without attacking them, or outright ignoring them. I then also looked at the ThinkTrees that diaboli use, the AICanTargetNow function of the Fire Burst ability, and so on and so forth... | So I started several Dev Quicktest runs without any mods. In each, I used Dev Mode to place down a diabolus, then I went through various scenarios of pawns attacking them with weapons of different ranges, running past them without attacking them, or outright ignoring them. I then also looked at the ThinkTrees that diaboli use, the AICanTargetNow function of the Fire Burst ability, and so on and so forth... | ||
+ | |||
Anyways, sources for all the information I've edited into the Diabolus page: | Anyways, sources for all the information I've edited into the Diabolus page: | ||
+ | |||
- I ordered friendly diaboli to use Fire Burst, watched enemy diaboli use it, and used Dev Mode to force enemy diaboli to use it. In all three instances, their behavior is identical: a three-second warmup during which chemfuel puddles are deposited to random points in 5.9c radius, followed by the deposition of chemfuel puddles into the remaining cells in 5.9c radius and a flame explosion with 5.9c radius. The ability then goes on cooldown for what appears to be 1 hour according to the GUI, but is actually 2700 ticks (1.08 hours) per the XML. | - I ordered friendly diaboli to use Fire Burst, watched enemy diaboli use it, and used Dev Mode to force enemy diaboli to use it. In all three instances, their behavior is identical: a three-second warmup during which chemfuel puddles are deposited to random points in 5.9c radius, followed by the deposition of chemfuel puddles into the remaining cells in 5.9c radius and a flame explosion with 5.9c radius. The ability then goes on cooldown for what appears to be 1 hour according to the GUI, but is actually 2700 ticks (1.08 hours) per the XML. | ||
+ | |||
- The code for CompAbilityEffect_FireBurst is just 'GenExplosion.DoExplosion(this.Pawn.Position, this.Pawn.MapHeld, this.Props.radius, DamageDefOf.Flame, this.Pawn, -1, -1f, null, null, null, null, ThingDefOf.Filth_Fuel, 1f, 1, null, false, null, 0f, 1, 1f, false, null, null, null, false, 0.6f, 0f, true, null, 1f, null, null)'. So yes, the damage type is Flame. The two fields after 'this.Pawn' are the damage amount and armor penetration fields, in that order; since the listed damage amount is <0, DoExplosion uses Flame damage's default damage amount, which is 10, and since the listed armor penetration is <0, DoExplosion uses its default armor penetration, which is 0. | - The code for CompAbilityEffect_FireBurst is just 'GenExplosion.DoExplosion(this.Pawn.Position, this.Pawn.MapHeld, this.Props.radius, DamageDefOf.Flame, this.Pawn, -1, -1f, null, null, null, null, ThingDefOf.Filth_Fuel, 1f, 1, null, false, null, 0f, 1, 1f, false, null, null, null, false, 0.6f, 0f, true, null, 1f, null, null)'. So yes, the damage type is Flame. The two fields after 'this.Pawn' are the damage amount and armor penetration fields, in that order; since the listed damage amount is <0, DoExplosion uses Flame damage's default damage amount, which is 10, and since the listed armor penetration is <0, DoExplosion uses its default armor penetration, which is 0. | ||
+ | |||
- In testing, enemy diaboli start using Fire Burst as soon as someone starts aiming at them, unless they were already using the Hellsphere Cannon. Meanwhile, colonists, pets, and mechanoids can run in close proximity to a diabolus without provoking Fire Burst; instead, it tries using its Hellsphere Cannon or melee attacks. HOWEVER, in the run in which I first noticed odd diabolus behavior, it didn't seem to be this way; that may be due to the following reasons. 1) Some of my colonists have weapons that can attack from >=66c away; 2) Fire Burst's AI usage is governed by AICanTargetNow, which is ultimately called by the diabolus' ThinkTree under whatever ThinkNode gives it JobGiver_AIFightEnemy (or in this case its derivative JobGiver_AIFightEnemies); and 3) this node in the diabolus' ThinkTree has a targetAcquireRadius of 65c. Subsequent testing with mods that enabled me to give colonists weapons with >65c range showed that diaboli will start using Fire Burst if they are not currently using Hellsphere Cannon, and are being aimed at or attacked by a pawn within 65c. | - In testing, enemy diaboli start using Fire Burst as soon as someone starts aiming at them, unless they were already using the Hellsphere Cannon. Meanwhile, colonists, pets, and mechanoids can run in close proximity to a diabolus without provoking Fire Burst; instead, it tries using its Hellsphere Cannon or melee attacks. HOWEVER, in the run in which I first noticed odd diabolus behavior, it didn't seem to be this way; that may be due to the following reasons. 1) Some of my colonists have weapons that can attack from >=66c away; 2) Fire Burst's AI usage is governed by AICanTargetNow, which is ultimately called by the diabolus' ThinkTree under whatever ThinkNode gives it JobGiver_AIFightEnemy (or in this case its derivative JobGiver_AIFightEnemies); and 3) this node in the diabolus' ThinkTree has a targetAcquireRadius of 65c. Subsequent testing with mods that enabled me to give colonists weapons with >65c range showed that diaboli will start using Fire Burst if they are not currently using Hellsphere Cannon, and are being aimed at or attacked by a pawn within 65c. | ||
+ | |||
- I actually tried to test the "friendly" claim and see how diaboli from an allied faction use Fire Burst. These diaboli, which I set to various allied or neutral factions, were instead confused about their existence and wandered around aimlessly, not responding to attacks from anything (though their mounted charge turret still shot at hostile pawns nearby). This may be due to how the "Set Faction" Dev Mode tool works, though - I suspect if a mod were to add an allied faction that can field diaboli, and bothers to give them a Lord AI that lets them attack, such friendly diaboli will use Fire Burst the same way enemy diaboli do. | - I actually tried to test the "friendly" claim and see how diaboli from an allied faction use Fire Burst. These diaboli, which I set to various allied or neutral factions, were instead confused about their existence and wandered around aimlessly, not responding to attacks from anything (though their mounted charge turret still shot at hostile pawns nearby). This may be due to how the "Set Faction" Dev Mode tool works, though - I suspect if a mod were to add an allied faction that can field diaboli, and bothers to give them a Lord AI that lets them attack, such friendly diaboli will use Fire Burst the same way enemy diaboli do. |