Talk:Reproduction

What do people think about splitting the Babies section into its own page? Reproduction feels just as different from Babies as Babies are from Children in my opinion, and there's already a lot of content here even after we've just been adding the basics.

Plus the acquisition section at the top would be a perfect section in a page about Babies but sounds pretty clunky on a page about Reproduction. Although babies and reproduction are related, they're very different topics!

I created it as it's own page at first, but it was later merged. I wouldn't mind having a page for it. There are plenty of specific mechanics for them.

Sounds like a good idea to me. The page is quite big, and the section on babies could warrant its own page.

How should we name the page? Just 'Babies', as before? Since infants is also used in some places.

Maybe whatever shows up most often? The life stage is Baby, but my current rimworld baby's title is Newborn, and then in the Newborn description it says he's a baby. Where have you seen them called infants?

On the wiki here, in the quicknav.

In that case is 'Babies' the best option in my opinion, as it corresponds best with what is used in the game.

Destination: Children and reproduction Reason: Significant redundancy of information between the pages - both will routinely have to mention mechanics of the other in sufficient detail to require a lot of duplication. This page could fairly easily be subsumed into that one

Opening topic for discussion/debate/dissent so people without autoconfirmed accounts can contribute and so I can get pinged with responses.

P.S. I want to make it clear my opinions here are as an editor not a moderator, so please feel free to disagree and we'll go with consensus.

Family planning could also be made into a more strategic overview as in what skills could be raised as opposed to what skills would be recruited for example as I understand things you cannot raise a strong passion intellectual child.

Also could potentially vat grow organ donations or soldiers as well.

Of course that assumes that there are that many strategies to discuss that won't fit in say human resources/war crimes

Slightly unrelated, but a strong passion intellectual child is possible, right? I am able to choose passions on skills that the child cannot do yet.

Vat grown organs seems more to be a topic for the analysis subsection on the growth vat page. What kind of strategies were you thinking of to discuss in family planning?

Romance could link to Social, where another subsection could be added for the things related to the dlc and/or how to manipulate your pawns' relationships.

The contraceptives subsection is good, and would be an addition to the Children and reproduction page. Family planning could be kept in the navbox, and link to this part within the page. Things like changing the chance of a pregnancy and the fertility rates are described on both pages already.

Yeah sorry about the duplication--the reason I made a different page was that Children and reproduction felt like it was already covering a lot of content, with most of it at the later stages of childbearing: the actual pregnancy, giving birth, raising children. Since I wanted to add content about changing pregnancy chances beforehand, and it felt like there'd quickly be a lot to add, from fertility factors to the contraceptives, it felt like it was enough content, at a different stage of the process, to warrant a new page. Part of the duplication is because I added fertility stats to the natural pregnancy section of the Children and Reproduction page a few days earlier since it was the closest spot I could see to put them. However, there's so much that goes into fertility and those chances that I'd like to see a page/section that goes into them in much greater detail than Children and Reproduction currently supports.

If you wanted to merge them back to Children and reproduction, then maybe adding new sections on fertility (since it applies to both natural and artificial pregnancies) and contraceptives would be helpful--it just seemed like the Children and reproduction page was getting pretty full of topics already.

Ok I agree vat seems best place for my example.

I have no issue with merging.

we can always split later on the track.

I am still curious about strong passion intellectual I tried save scumming for it.

I think the children and reproduction page should be 2 separate pages anyways, if those are split then the reproduction section would make sense to merge with this page.

Better to split into (Pregnancy & Babies) and (Children) IMO. Babies are different enough for children to warrant their own page, and babies and pregenancy are an easy mix. You can also get children from quests and the like. Arguably you could have pregenancy, babies, and children as all seperate pages. Family planning would be part of pregnancy.