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Errors in some animals' guard/attack/rescue/haul

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Summary by Harakoni

Animals should now be up to date

SyntaxTerror (talkcontribs)

Hello Harakoni

On the articles of some animals, like the donkey or the horse, it is stated that they cannot guard, attack, rescue or haul, while in fact they can.

This has an impact on other pages, such as the list of animals.

I guess that the Property:Can_Train_Guard, etc. need to be modified, but I haven't managed to do so.

Is it possible for anyone to do this, and if so, how?

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Yup anyone can update both the pages and the template used to set those variables. On the donkey page in the infobox main template call there will be a line that looks like:

|trainable = none

It can be set to none for none, simple for Can Train Guard and nothing else, intermediate for Can Train Guard and Can Train Attack, and advanced for everything except where its limited by bodysize

It you look in Template:Infobox main and search for Trainable Intelligence it should take you straight to where those relationships are defined.

SyntaxTerror (talkcontribs)

I spawned all the animals in dev mode, checked in Animals tab, and edited the articles that weren't corresponding to what I saw, then I purged the list of animals (I don't know if there are other pages to purge).

Here's my list of what I found, please double-check if possible (I modified the names with a hyphen at the begining of the line):

-alpaca		***
-bison		**
-boomalope	***
-boomrat	***
-capybara	***
-cassowary	***
-cobra		***
-deer		***
-donkey		*****
-horse		*****
-pig		*****
-tortoise	***
-w.boar		***
-warg		*****
a.beaver	***
a.wolf		*****
artic fox	*** *
caribou		***
cat		*
chicken		*
chinchilla	*
cougar	 	 *****
cow		*
donkey		*****
dromad		**
duck		*
eleph		*****
elk		***
emu		***
fennec		*** *
gazelle		***
goat		*
goose		*
grizzly		*****
guinea		*
hare		*
husky		*****
ibex		***
iguana		*
labrador	*****
lynx		***
m.scarab	***
m.sloth		*****
m.spider	*****
monkey		***
muffalo		**
ostrich		***
p.bear		*****
panther		*****
raccoon		***
rat		*
red fox		*** *
rhino		***
s.hare		*
sheep		*
speloped	*****
squirrel	*
t.wolf		*****
thrumbo		*****
turkey		*
yak		*
yorksh		***
Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Are you sure you're on the current version? It looks to me that Alpacas have Trainability None?

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SyntaxTerror (talkcontribs)

Oh $#!7...

I remember coming back to an older version because I didn't like some parts of newer ones, and I stayed like this since.

I am up to date now (v1.3.3087) and I saw the difference.

There are still many errors, wouldn't it be easier to centralise this data on a subpage of the template, so each individual article wouldn't have to be modified if important changes like these are made in the future versions? I guess that this wiki is using lua for things like this, so my knowledge in this area isn't good enough to help you with that.

Luckily I could use AutoWikiBrowser (it seems that anyone is even allowed to use auto bot mode), so I corrected my mistakes, and also the other ones.

Here's the pages I edited (with a + in front of the line, first set of asterisks is after my first eroneous edits, second is v1.3.3087):

+artic f	*** *		***
+fennec		*** *		***
+red fox	*** *		***
+warg		*****		***
+alphabeaver	***		*
+alpaca		***		*
+bison		**		*
+boomalope	***		*
+boomrat	***		*
+capybara	***		*
+caribou	***		*
+cassowary	***		*	
+cobra		***		*
+deer		***		*
+donkey		*****		*
+dromadery	**		*
+elk		***		*
+emu		***		*
+gazelle	***		*
+horse		*****		*
+ibex		***		*
+lynx		***		*
+muffalo	**		*
+ostrich	***		*
+pig		*****		*
+raccoon	***		*
+tortoise	***		*
+wildboar	***		*

arctic wolf	*****		*****
cat		*		*
chicken		*		*
chinchilla	*		*
cougar	  	*****		*****
cow		*		*
duck		*		*
elephant	*****		*****
goat		*		*
goose		*		*
grizzly		*****		*****
guinea		*		*
hare		*		*
husky		*****		*****
iguana		*		*
labrador	*****		*****
megascarab	***		***
megasloth	*****		*****
megaspider	*****		*****
monkey		***		***
polar bear	*****		*****
panther		*****		*****
rat		*		*
rhinoceros	***		***
snow hare	*		*
sheep		*		*
spelopede	*****		*****
squirrel	*		*
timber wolf	*****		*****
thrumbo		*****		*****
turkey		*		*
yak		*		*
yorkshire	***		***

I think it is all fine now (I hope ;p ).

Kingerman88 (talkcontribs)

Hello! Not sure if the AutoWikiBrowser actually pushed any updates since I don't see anything in the reversion history and after looking at the pages they seems to not have been reverted. I can probably just revert the pages manually if anything since I'll be working on updating all of the stats (since a lot has changed for 1.3)

(little bit off topic) "I guess that this wiki is using lua for things like this, so my knowledge in this area isn't good enough to help you with that." 👀 really? I actually know a fair bit of lua so I might do some research into that!

SyntaxTerror (talkcontribs)
Kingerman88 (talkcontribs)

Ah, whoops, I do see those changes. However, actually those animals should have trainability of none (instead of simple). (as the screenshot Harakoni posted earlier) those animals can be tamed but can't be trained. Trainability simple means that the animals can be trained to guard (which as of 1.3 I'm not sure if any animals can only be trained to guard)

SyntaxTerror (talkcontribs)

@Kingerman88: oh, I clearly messed it up again, I put "simple" instead of "none" on the pages I edited...

I'm fixing that right now, thanks.

Kingerman88 (talkcontribs)

All good!

SyntaxTerror (talkcontribs)

It should be fine now, sorry for the trouble.