User talk:Zesty

Previous discussion was archived at User talk:Zesty/Archive 1 on 2018-09-05.

Hey, Zesty! Hope you are having a nice and awesome day right now! I've been looking through the RimWorld wiki for a while and got interested why there are no translations to other languages. I'm terribly sorry, if this question was somewhere answered and I make you read this message for nothing, but I want to provide a bit more specific details.

I'm 23 and am working with and contributing to the wikis that are classified as official Wikimedia projects. It means I'm somewhat familiar with the general concepts of how MediaWiki works as a wiki-engine. And I can't see here any other language sections but English (at least I'm dumb enought not to notice them). Maybe for a reason, I don't know, that's why I'm texting you. At the same time I'm proficient and fluent in Russian, for it is my first language. I work as an English teacher, play RimWorld a lot and therefore can offer my translating skills. Not a mystery the game's got a tremendous amount of Russian-speaking fans and players. Thankfully, it's the game that has already got its own translation to Russian that can be (or have to be) successfully used in creating Russian articles of RimWorld wiki.

I know that there is a Russian RimWorld wiki on Fandom (just as an English RimWorld wiki does), but I like the way how MediaWiki works and does the things more, than Fandom. Mentioned earlier, I'm familiarised with the engine. Additionally, I know that creating a whole new language wiki section is not a one-night-task, there gotta be a solid ground to do that. And, repeating myself, I'm offering some of my time and energy to help you to begin creating content for the Russian language wiki section.

Summarising, I want to ask: "Is it possible to create the Russian language section of RimWorld wiki? If yes, please, tell me, what can I do to help you make this happen?"

Hi Zedmond. Thanks, I hope your day is going well.

About translations: there was a translation plugin early into the wiki's history, but it was fairly broken and there were very few people keeping pages up to date.

I'm all for having people translate the wiki into their native languages. The barriers are technical (actually finding a translation plugin that's well-supported and not a nightmare to maintain), motivational (the wiki is massive now and there's a lot to translate), and moderational (both myself and others can't moderate pages in languages I can't speak).

Regarding the first barrier (the technical one), it sounds like you would have more experience than I do with wiki translation -- if you're able to identify a plugin that works well (both technically and workflow-wise), then I'd be happy to implement it.

Question answered

Hey, I'd like to ask a question about the system surrounding edits needing approval. Has it always been this way and is there any way that I can edit without approval needed (like permissions)?

It's a new system that was put in place to prevent site-wide vandalism.

Just edit pages as usual and a moderator will approve your edits. As long as you're not being malicious (i.e. trying to delete pages, insert spam, etc), a moderator will approve your edits - the system isn't there to gatekeep anyone, it's genuinely just in place to stop vandalism.

Longstanding users can be added to the automoderated group, but there is no specific criteria to have your permissions bumped up outside of a loose 'make good and meaningful contributions'.

Most of the bad title links were cleaned up

Hey Zesty, I was hoping you could take a look at this issue on the admin notice board.RimWorld_Wiki:Admin_noticeboard#Badtitle_links_in_wanted_pages

Hmm. It's something I'll have to poke Tynan about, it looks like some special pages aren't getting updated like they routinely should.

Much appreciated.

Apologies for the slow turn-around, but I am in touch with Ty and his web expert - his best guess is that an ancient translation plugin is the culprit. It's being worked on now, so hopefully it'll be resolved soon. I'll keep you posted.

No need to apologize, thanks for the update.

99% of the Badtitle links in wanted pages / what links here / etc should be sorted now.

Thank you very much, that is so much better.

I'm going to mark this resolved in a day or so, or if you're finished with this feel free to do so yourself. Thanks again

Reopening because I have since collected a lot more here User:Harakoni#Bad titles

I'm going to need a refresher on what we did about the former Bad titles thing. I genuinely have no memory of what 2019 me was doing on this topic. The best recollection I have browsing through some old email chains I have is that they're related to namespaces from deprecated plugins.

Unfortunately I don't think I ever actually knew what you did to fix the other ones, you just handled it or maybe sent it to Tynan's person that did? Thats part of why I reopened this now, because I thought you were the only one that knew.

But no big deal if you can't remember, they're an annoyance that occasionally gets in the way, not a vital issue.

Answered

I am offering my assistance to deal with the ongoing vandal issue. I have a great deal of experience in stopping vandals, trolls and other wrongdoers in online communities. Additionally, I have a history of working with Mediawiki implementations. If you don't feel comfortable with it at the moment, I don't mind, I'm just simply offering my help in dealing with ongoing vandalism.

Welcome to the wiki. Feel free to rollback any malicious edits you see, or otherwise ping the moderators on the RimWorld Discord for speedy assistance.

Right. I can't currently create my user page, do you know how to fix that?

Page creation is locked behind being autoconfirmed to prevent spam. Perform edits and you'll eventually get confirmed by the bot. In the mean time I or one of the other confirmed users can create any pages you need.

In that vein, your user page is up.

Hello

I offer my help if you ever need occasional work to be done with a bot.

I am a contributor on Wikipedia in French (18,000 contributions, more than 130,000 with my bot), fluent in English and wikicode.

I use AutoWikiBrowser and know how to use regexes.

If you want to be sure I am who I say I am, you can check my personal page on Wikipedia and send me an email from there (use the link "Email this user" in the Tools list in the left menu).

Kind regards.

Page was created along with other page-spam, but in Zesty's namespace so didn't want to delete without permission. Page deleted by Zesty.

Was just cleaning up all the page-spam that jakek created and found User:Zesty/Sandbox. He's the only contributor but didn't want to delete it as its in your namespace. I wasn't sure if you even knew it existed.

I wasn't aware, thank you for bringing it to my attention. I've removed the page since I don't intend to use it.

Hi again. Says something about my activity level that I didn't notice the moderator rights had been dropped until now, and it apparently happened in May. Hah. Looks like some other users have made some indecent comments on my profile.

Think I ran out of energy working on the site redesign, and then a million changes happened with the game. If I come back to work on the wiki properly again, I'll let you know as it would then probably be more productive to have moderator rights again, particularly if I try my hand at Cargo again (unfortunately I ran into quite some issues, and couldn't figure it out, even on my local setup).

It's okay, we all get burnt out. I can restore your moderation usergroup whenever you feel like coming back.

The topics were merged, and a redirect was added.

It would be so much simpler to have one article combining the two, just called "Mood". Thoughts is just the bit of what affects mood and whatnot, so I believe its better to merge the two, can I do it? (I can also add a redirect from Thoughts to the bit in Moods that specifically lists the + and - of each thought)

I'll give you the greenlight to go forward with that. They're pretty much the same topic, I think it'd be better if it was all on one page like you've suggested.

I have now merged them, however I need help with two things. Deleting the Thoughts article and then also adding a redirect from Thoughts to Mood.

I removed this part from the Thoughts article, as I thought it was kind of not needed. https://pastebin.pl/view/868b519a

This is also the entire page of the Thoughts article, should it be needed. https://pastebin.pl/view/685a134f

Looks like User:Harakoni sorted out the redirect. Looks good to me.

Spam

Hi Harakoni! Yous user paj waz zpamed by testperson. Gotla go!

I'm going to time you out for a month. Please do not spam pages or harass users.

You do realize that it tracks who makes the edits? It was obviously you.

Hello admin or moderator! I wanted to thank you for keeping this wiki alive and well!

While I'm a new person when it comes to editing this wiki, I thought that for more real time talk and chatter when it comes to the wiki itself might be extremely beneficial for everyone. So in that case I have created the Rimworld Wiki Discord Server. Over the next week or so, I will be adding custom bots, commands, and functionality in this server to make our job as contributors easier and more efficient. (Link for the Discord Server is on the main page, the community portal, and my profile page as well)

As soon as you come into the server, please DM me or tag me in general chat so I can add your appropriate Role as an Admin or Moderator.

Just to make sure that all the Admins/Moderators get this message (and I really hate to do this) I'm going to copy and paste this message on all the staff's talk pages. Again, sorry for copy and pasting but I want to make sure that you all get a notification ping on the wiki.

Keep doing all the good work! You guys are awesome! Let's keep updating and pushing hard to get this wiki up to date!

Thanks, DJRedNight#3428