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== Main Page Edit Copy ==
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So heres the beginning. I looked up details on the correct formatting of names (such as nouns, specifically video games) and it suggests doing italicized. Does this 'look' right to anyone? Does anybody even follow standard writing practices when referencing names and the such? Or am I just old school by the book?--[[User:Enystrom8734|Nystrom]] ([[User talk:Enystrom8734|talk]]) 23:54, 10 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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:I did the emphasizing on Wikia with bold, I find it to be easier on the eyes.
 
--[[User:British|British]] ([[User talk:British|talk]]) 04:53, 11 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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I definitely like it, though it violates some of the normal styling of the MediaWiki. But it has a basic list of useful topics, which I think is really critical. Would also be good to have a place for random screenshots, as British says. I think it should be adaptive width, like all pages, though you could set a maximum like at http://dwarffortresswiki.org/.<br>--
 
[[User:TynanSylvester|TynanSylvester]] ([[User talk:TynanSylvester|talk]]) 13:10, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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This is interesting and much cleaner (that's actually easy ^^).
 
A few things, though:
 
* The width is not adaptative, so it's getting "out of the screen" for lower resolutions (not everyone is using 1920x1080 and a browser in fullscreen ;p)
 
* The Links and About from the actual main page need to be there in one form or another
 
* It would also be nice to have a place to have a random screenshot (I need to upload a few) from a gallery (that thus needs to be created), and one for videos (need to have a bunch of the ones on YouTube)
 
* I'm supposed to start revamping the pages by creating a menu like the Architect Menu in-game (with images)... I haven't had much luck freeing some time for this as of late, though, but that has to be taken into account
 
* Some pages we see on "Wiki community" need to be disposed of: they're remnants of my import from Wikia
 
*Regarding "News & Updates", I'd love to have Tynan managing some kind of changelog that we could use... I believe he's planning to do it at some point, but the sooner he does it, the easier it will be in the end
 
* The "Welcome" text and area needs some reworking, as it doesn't fit the cleanness of the rest of the page (at least the links at the top can be moved to/kept from the actual Link section)
 
  
I'll probably find some more ideas/tweaks later one, but thanks for the proposal anyway !<br>--[[User:British|British]] ([[User talk:British|talk]]) 08:28, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
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:For the "News & Updates", he is starting to do that now. Im guessing will wait to do it for alpha releases though? Also do like the new style. Better than anything I would've come up with...<br>--[[User:Enystrom8734|Nystrom]] ([[User talk:Enystrom8734|talk]]) 09:00, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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::Thats just sample
 
::*Width - fixed, now adaptive <s>(but still set max.1030) because in plans was 2 images at left and right..</s> ;)
 
::*Links - not understand what you mean, sorry. About "Screenshot" place, we have 2 more cells (maybe merge like game section) at bottom (Wiki community line)<br>--[[User:AcDie|AcDie]] ([[User talk:AcDie|talk]]) 09:14, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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:I made a few edits, and am making a few more now to what I believe would be a good example of what Mr British wants<br>--[[User:Enystrom8734|Nystrom]] ([[User talk:Enystrom8734|talk]]) 09:42, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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::I see links section, but we have same at header (Official site & forum).. Dont think that (twitter/reddit/indieDB) related with wiki, they are more related for official site & must be placed there. Also too hard use embedded CSS, not too much space for maneuvers.<br> --[[User:AcDie|AcDie]] ([[User talk:AcDie|talk]]) 09:55, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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:::Indeed you put links at the header, but I'm not convinced having a header like this is a good idea, as it's breaking nice aspect of the table.<br>And the links we have right now *are* important, as they are related to RimWorld as a whole, not just the wiki.<br>--[[User:British|British]] ([[User talk:British|talk]]) 10:39, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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::::Added [[News]] page & [[Template:TOCright]] --[[User:AcDie|AcDie]] ([[User talk:AcDie|talk]]) 11:19, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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== UPDATE ==
 
[[TynanSylvester|Tynan]] just updated frontpage. But don't forget to check some changes [[Main_Page/editcopy|here]].--[[User:AcDie|AcDie]] ([[User talk:AcDie|talk]]) 05:04, 23 October 2013 (EDT)
 
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[[User:ShySkream|ShySkream]] ([[User talk:ShySkream|talk]]) 09:48, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
[02:23:47] <AcDie> May i suggest to rename weapon structures (ingame button) to something similar (defence/security/protection)? Because we have weapons as equipment...
 
[02:24:08] <Tynan_> ok
 
[02:24:13] <Tynan_> ill make them security
 
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So weapons button in game - Security. And equipment (weapons) - Weapons.<br>--[[User:AcDie|AcDie]] ([[User talk:AcDie|talk]]) 18:33, 24 October 2013 (EDT)
 
  
== Change to logos ==
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== <s>Outdated Main Page Sublists</s> ==
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Recommending the following changes
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* Menu sublist - Change [[Menus#Restrict|Restrict]] to [[Menus#Schedule|Schedule]]
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* Gameplay sublist - Add [[Quality]] after Firefighting, [[Quests]] before Research, [[Room stats|Rooms]] after Research
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[[User:Deadgye|Deadgye]] ([[User talk:Deadgye|talk]]) 18:23, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
  
The new logo above navigation is nice, but it would probably be a bit better without the "wiki" text. People know they're on a wiki, that's redundant.<br>As long as the wiki theme is white, the big logo should stay black.<br>--[[User:British|British]] ([[User talk:British|talk]]) 05:58, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
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:Hows that? [[User:Harakoni|Harakoni]] ([[User talk:Harakoni|talk]]) 22:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
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:Looks good to me. It could be cleaned up in the future by combining Combat, Cover, Defense, and Drafting; Caravan and Trade; and Environment and Rooms. But major changes to those pages to support that would have to happen first. If I get another bad bout of insomnia maybe I'll attempt that. [[User:Deadgye|Deadgye]] ([[User talk:Deadgye|talk]]) 15:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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== <s>Discord</s> ==
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It would be nice to have discord link as well as IRC one next to it. [[User:Saphire|Saphire]] ([[User_talk:Saphire|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Saphire|contribs]])
  
== Videos and Screenshots ==
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:I agree. Although if it was up to me I'd re-jiggle the Sidebar quite a bit, to make it more in line with the system Wikipedia and most other wikis use. So we'd have Main page, Community Portal, Admin noticeboard, Recent changes and Random page up top. Then other "tabs" underneath, such as an Official sites (or something) which also includes the Discord. Below that we could have the most important pages, whatever we deem that to be. Makes it easier to navigate for users when they're not on the main page. Here is an example of what it might look like: [https://i.imgur.com/NMGTrwO.png Image].
  
It's nice to have a dedicated page for Videos (and in time, for screenshots), but we '''NEED''' to have at least one video showing on the Main Page.<br>For now it can be the alpha trailer from the KickStarter campaign, but in the end it would be a random one, picked from the Videos page. Same with screenshots.<br>--[[User:British|British]] ([[User talk:British|talk]]) 06:02, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
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:The main page could also be changed quite drastically. There are almost as many ways to do it as there are wikis, but [https://ark.gamepedia.com/ARK_Survival_Evolved_Wiki here] and [https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Terraria_Wiki here] are two examples. [[User:Pangaea|Pangaea]] ([[User talk:Pangaea|talk]]) 20:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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: Nope, Tynan said you can delete them (when i hide them in spoiler).. or move somewhere.. Well i did both >_>  
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== <s>The Text Wall that is the Main Page</s> ==
: Same with screens, wiki = information.. But you can clean[[:Category:Screenshots]] and create some SubCats [Alpha Stage/Beta/Pre-release/Release/etc] where ppl will upload them, wiki bad source for image gallery (as engine/CMS) <br>--[[User:AcDie|AcDie]] ([[User talk:AcDie|talk]]) 06:28, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
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The main page is completely filled with text, hard to read, and in my opinion, aesthetically unpleasing. Maybe each topic should be in <big>big font</big> to be easier to see, and each specific page could be under a dropdown menu? Having a big font would also allow for us to add a small icon to the left of each of the major topics, the ones at the bottom of the screen in Rimworld when there are too many menus, which would look better than plain Arial text.
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[[User:ItsNotReallyEditing|ItsNotReallyEditing]] ([[User talk:ItsNotReallyEditing|talk]]) 22:23, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
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: You're welcome to try out different formatting or content on [[Main Page/editcopy]] and if you find something you like we can look at implementing it [[User:Harakoni|Harakoni (Wiki Moderator)]] ([[User talk:Harakoni|talk]]) 00:01, 28 November 2021 (UTC)>
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== Placing 'Save File' under 'Running the game' ==
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== Dark mode is a flashbang ==
  
I propose linking the [[Save file]] article under the "Running the game" header on the main page.   [[User:Samtarling|Samtarling]] ([[User talk:Samtarling|talk]]) 11:22, 6 November 2013 (EST)
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In dark mode the container for nav buttons is stil #fff, opening the main page in dark mode causes eye pain.
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[[User:SerialElf|-- Lilly,]] ([[User talk:SerialElf|talk]]) 18:12, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
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== Template:Daily Tip ==
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[[Template:Daily_Tip]] was initially designed to be used on the Main Page, just to display the [[Loading screen]] tips (the ones in-game, not custom made ones) and add a little interest. It stagnated in part because there was no way to ensure that the page would get reloaded often enough to not just display the same tip all the time, but traffic might be sufficient to justify it.
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Thoughts on adding it? [[User:Harakoni|Harakoni (Wiki Moderator)]] ([[User talk:Harakoni|talk]]) 11:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 11:49, 26 April 2023

Main Page Edit Copy[edit]

The main page is protected to stop vandalism. There is an edit copy that you can make changes to:

Main Page/editcopy

If you need adjustments to the templates or format, contact me on the wiki editor Discord.

ShySkream (talk) 09:48, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Outdated Main Page Sublists[edit]

Recommending the following changes

Deadgye (talk) 18:23, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Hows that? Harakoni (talk) 22:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Looks good to me. It could be cleaned up in the future by combining Combat, Cover, Defense, and Drafting; Caravan and Trade; and Environment and Rooms. But major changes to those pages to support that would have to happen first. If I get another bad bout of insomnia maybe I'll attempt that. Deadgye (talk) 15:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Discord[edit]

It would be nice to have discord link as well as IRC one next to it. Saphire (talk | contribs)

I agree. Although if it was up to me I'd re-jiggle the Sidebar quite a bit, to make it more in line with the system Wikipedia and most other wikis use. So we'd have Main page, Community Portal, Admin noticeboard, Recent changes and Random page up top. Then other "tabs" underneath, such as an Official sites (or something) which also includes the Discord. Below that we could have the most important pages, whatever we deem that to be. Makes it easier to navigate for users when they're not on the main page. Here is an example of what it might look like: Image.
The main page could also be changed quite drastically. There are almost as many ways to do it as there are wikis, but here and here are two examples. Pangaea (talk) 20:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

The Text Wall that is the Main Page[edit]

The main page is completely filled with text, hard to read, and in my opinion, aesthetically unpleasing. Maybe each topic should be in big font to be easier to see, and each specific page could be under a dropdown menu? Having a big font would also allow for us to add a small icon to the left of each of the major topics, the ones at the bottom of the screen in Rimworld when there are too many menus, which would look better than plain Arial text. ItsNotReallyEditing (talk) 22:23, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome to try out different formatting or content on Main Page/editcopy and if you find something you like we can look at implementing it Harakoni (Wiki Moderator) (talk) 00:01, 28 November 2021 (UTC)>

Dark mode is a flashbang[edit]

In dark mode the container for nav buttons is stil #fff, opening the main page in dark mode causes eye pain.

-- Lilly, (talk) 18:12, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Template:Daily Tip[edit]

Template:Daily_Tip was initially designed to be used on the Main Page, just to display the Loading screen tips (the ones in-game, not custom made ones) and add a little interest. It stagnated in part because there was no way to ensure that the page would get reloaded often enough to not just display the same tip all the time, but traffic might be sufficient to justify it.

Example: Caravans move faster if they include rideable animals like horses, donkeys and dromedaries.

Thoughts on adding it? Harakoni (Wiki Moderator) (talk) 11:49, 26 April 2023 (UTC)