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This page is supposed to provide some data for comparison between different melee weapons. | This page is supposed to provide some data for comparison between different melee weapons. | ||
| − | == Comparison | + | == Comparison tables == |
The following tables compares the {{DPS}} of weapons of the same material and quality. | The following tables compares the {{DPS}} of weapons of the same material and quality. | ||
* Since you realistically only ever want to make sharp weapons out of [[plasteel]], [[steel]] or [[uranium]], only those materials are considered. | * Since you realistically only ever want to make sharp weapons out of [[plasteel]], [[steel]] or [[uranium]], only those materials are considered. | ||
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| − | === Conclusions === | + | ==== Conclusions ==== |
* Whether the longsword or spear has more {{DPS}} is dependant on: | * Whether the longsword or spear has more {{DPS}} is dependant on: | ||
** '''Mostly''' the chosen '''material'''. | ** '''Mostly''' the chosen '''material'''. | ||
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Conclusion: As for pure {{DPS}} there is no clear winner between longsword and spear. | Conclusion: As for pure {{DPS}} there is no clear winner between longsword and spear. | ||
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| + | === {{Icon Small|Spear}} Spear vs. {{Icon Small|Mace}} Mace === | ||
| + | Green indicates, that the [[longsword]] is better, red the [[spear]]. | ||
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| + | ==== Baseline human ==== | ||
| + | {{#vardefineecho:weapon1|Spear}} vs. {{#vardefineecho:weapon2|Mace}} | ||
| + | {| {{STDT|c_06 text-right}} | ||
| + | ! Quality !! {{Icon Small|Plasteel}} !! {{Icon Small|Steel}} !! {{Icon Small|Uranium}} | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! {{#vardefineecho:quality|Awful}} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! {{#vardefineecho:quality|Poor}} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! {{#vardefineecho:quality|Normal}} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! {{#vardefineecho:quality|Good}} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! {{#vardefineecho:quality|Excellent}} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! {{#vardefineecho:quality|Masterwork}} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! {{#vardefineecho:quality|Legendary}} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Plasteel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Steel|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | | {{#ifexpr: {{#vardefineecho:difference|{{#expr:{{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon2}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} / {{True Melee DPS Calculator|{{#var:weapon1}}|Uranium|{{#var:quality}}|Human}} -1}} }} >= 0 | {{Good|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} | {{Bad|{{%|{{#var:difference}}|4}} }} }} | ||
| + | |} | ||
Revision as of 13:42, 27 April 2023
Summary
This page is supposed to provide some data for comparison between different melee weapons.
Comparison tables
The following tables compares the DPS of weapons of the same material and quality.
- Since you realistically only ever want to make sharp weapons out of plasteel, steel or uranium, only those materials are considered.
- Melee hit chance can be ignored, since we look only at relative differences.
Longsword vs. 
Spear
Green indicates, that the longsword is better, red the spear.
Baseline human
Longsword vs. Spear
| Quality |  |
 |
|
|---|---|---|---|
| Awful | −0.4745% | −0.7764% | 0.7634% |
| Poor | −0.2128% | −0.5579% | 0.8208% |
| Normal | 1.5429% | −0.2532% | 0.9913% |
| Good | −1.7812% | −0.1157% | 1.2472% |
| Excellent | −1.7885% | 0.1067% | 1.357% |
| Masterwork | −1.7375% | −0.9532% | 0.4988% |
| Legendary | −1.7534% | −0.9139% | 0.5848% |
Archotech arms
| Quality | |
|
|
|---|---|---|---|
| Awful | −1.908% | −2.3426% | −0.8671% |
| Poor | −1.5182% | −1.8519% | −0.3911% |
| Normal | −1.1982% | −1.5663% | −0.1186% |
| Good | −0.9306% | −1.2182% | 0.1089% |
| Excellent | −0.7819% | −1.1259% | 0.3018% |
| Masterwork | −0.3287% | −0.6891% | 0.7608% |
| Legendary | 1.2828% | −0.306% | 0.9745% |
Conclusions
- Whether the longsword or spear has more DPS is dependant on:
- Mostly the chosen material.
- Somewhat the achieved quality.
- Somewhat on the attacks available to the pawn. Default attacks: left fist, right fist, teeth, head. Changed by injuries and artificial body parts (e.g. bionic or archotech arms, elbow blades
, knee spikes or venom fangs ).
- However, for materials you actually want to choose (plasteel, steel or uranium), the differences rarely reach 2%.
Conclusion: As for pure DPS there is no clear winner between longsword and spear.
Spear vs. 
Mace
Green indicates, that the longsword is better, red the spear.
Baseline human
Spear vs. Mace
| Quality | |
|
|
|---|---|---|---|
| Awful | −25.7449% | −10.9546% | 14.697% |
| Poor | −26.3326% | −11.3604% | 14.3826% |
| Normal | −28.0152% | −11.802% | 14.1104% |
| Good | −28.6701% | −12.2827% | 13.8858% |
| Excellent | −29.2162% | −12.58% | 13.6972% |
| Masterwork | −30.3864% | −14.6107% | 14.7229% |
| Legendary | −25.0432% | −15.2959% | 14.6802% |