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Frag grenades are short ranged, thrown weapons that have a forced miss radius but deal explosive damage in a small radius around their target.

Note that frag grenades, once equipped, can be thrown infinitely; they are not consumed by use.

Acquisition

Frag grenades can be crafted at a Machining table once the Machining research project has been completed. They require 20 Steel, 80 Chemfuel and 12,000 ticks (3.33 mins) of work.

They can also be purchased from orbital pirate merchants and orbital combat suppliers, outlander faction bases, or obtained from the following raider kinds:

Raider Kind	Chance	Average Quality	Health
Grenadier	50%	Normal	70-230%
Grenadier	100%	Normal	70-230%

Summary

Frag grenade range and AoE

Frag grenades are thrown from a very short range with moderate aiming time, Once landed, grenades have a 100 ticks (1.67 secs) delay before exploding in a 3x3 area, causing 50 Bomb damage to items and creatures, 200 damage to structures and terrain features, and 400 damage to walls. They have a forced miss radius of 1.9 tiles, meaning an unobstructed grenade will always land within 1 grid tile of their target (including diagonals), and will always hit the intended tile. This means Shooting skill, shooting accuracy, and health of the grenadier is irrelevant. Aiming time effects do still apply however.

Grenades are treated as a proper weapon, so can't be wielde with another one. Each set of frag grenades can be thrown infinitely; they are not consumed by use. They are fired like any other ranged weapon, so they cannot be used over walls and must have a direct line of sight. A circular zone will generate to indicate range, then another 3x3 indicator with a circular center will become the aiming spot.

When throwing a grenade down an 1-tile wide alley, a pawn can consistently throw a grenade 4 tiles, not including the tile the pawn is standing on, without intersecting the two side walls. Beyond 4 tiles, there is a risk of hitting the wall and dropping short. This can be relevant to prevent friendly fire or damaging defenses during combat.

When damaged with Flame damage^{[How much?]}, the grenade item may explode. The grenades will spark and emit a hissing sound shortly before exploding some time later. The explosion deals 50 Bomb damage in a 2.66 tile radius around itself.

Frag grenades have no quality - every set of grenades will have the same stats, regardless of the skill of the crafter.

Analysis

The main benefits of frag grenades are the strong damage versus structures and large concentration of hostiles in tight areas. It offers a viable combat alternative for those with low skill or health issues that diminish accuracy as it hits nine tiles at once, reducing target "miss" chances. Frag grenades strictly benefit from the trigger-happy trait, as the Aiming Time bonus applies while the accuracy penalty does not, resulting in a signficantly higher DPS. Similarly, the careful shooter trait is strictly detrimental, reducing DPS with no benefit in return.

Usage without oversight is prone to vulnerable positioning, inefficiency against moving target, and unwanted collateral damage.

Hostiles with grenades are very dangerous, especially against stationary targets like Mini-turrets and drafted (standing) colonists in cover. Players should pay attention to the "throwing" sound (a whooshing sound) and clear the area fast enough to avoid getting caught in its blast radius. Grenadiers may also be used as part of outlander or pirate breach raids.

Like any ranged weapon, grenades can't be thrown in melee combat, so rushing them in melee will practically neutralize the threat. As raiders prioritize the nearest target, they'll target melee colonists, only to invariably miss as the target is moving.

Melee Blocking

Frag grenades are especially useful when paired with the melee blocking tactic. While enemies are bunched up on the other side of a wall, a grenadier can throw grenades over the heads of the blockers to deal massive damage to many enemies. Just make sure that the extent of the AoE of the grenade is one tile away from the wall, as a mishandled grenade can blow a hole in the wall and ruin the melee blocking tactic.

Firefighting

Frag grenades produce blast explosion but no fire, allowing instant extinguishing of fires.

Disposal

Frag grenades can also be used to clear dumping zones, though if you are clearing corpses it's better to light them on fire instead.

Version history

Beta 19/1.0 - Frag grenades are no longer a valid hunting weapon

Original Grenade sprite

Weapons

Melee | Neolithic: Breach axe • Club • Ikwa • Knife (Jade) • Spear

Medieval: Gladius • Longsword • Mace • Axe • Warhammer

Ultra: Eltex staff • Monosword (Persona) • Plasmasword (Persona) • Zeushammer (Persona)

Improvised: Beer • Elephant tusk • Thrumbo horn • Wood

Ranged | Neolithic: Greatbow • Pila • Recurve bow • Short bow • Flamebow

Medieval: Nerve spiker

Industrial: Assault rifle • Autopistol • Bolt-action rifle • Chain shotgun • Heavy SMG • Launcher (EMP, Incendiary, Smoke, Toxbomb ) • LMG • Machine pistol • Minigun • Pump shotgun • Revolver • Sniper rifle • Hellcat rifle • Incinerator

Spacer: Charge lance • Charge rifle

Consumables: Doomsday rocket launcher • Triple rocket launcher

Throwables: EMP grenades • Frag grenades • Molotov cocktails • Tox grenades

Mechanoid: Heavy charge blaster • Inferno cannon • Needle gun • Thump cannon • Beam graser • Charge blaster turret • Hellsphere cannon • Mini-flameblaster • Mini-shotgun • Slugthrower • Spiner • Toxic needle gun

Structures: Autocannon • Mini-turret gun • Mortar (Weapon) • Uranium slug cannon • Auto-mortar • Inferno cannon (Turret) • Light charge blaster • Mini-slugger • Tactical turret gun

Related | Body part weapons: Prosthetic arm • Bionic arm • Archotech arm • Power claw • Field hand • Drill arm • Venom talon • Venom fangs • Knee spike • Elbow blade • Hand talon • Flesh whip

Integrated weapons: Grenadier armor • Phoenix armor

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 == Summary ==
 [[File:Frag grenade range.png|200px|thumb|left|Frag grenade range and AoE]]
-Frag grenades have very short range, moderate aiming time, and a {{ticks|100}} delay before exploding in a 3x3 area, causing {{P|Damage Base}} [[Damage types#{{P|Damage Type}}|{{P|Damage Type}}]] damage to items and creatures, 200 damage to structures and terrain features, and 400 damage to [[walls]]. Each set of frag grenades can be thrown infinitely; they are not consumed by use.
+Frag grenades are thrown from a very short range with moderate aiming time, Once landed, grenades have a {{ticks|100}} delay before exploding in a 3x3 area, causing {{P|Damage Base}} [[Damage types#{{P|Damage Type}}|{{P|Damage Type}}]] damage to items and creatures, 200 damage to structures and terrain features, and 400 damage to [[walls]]. They have a forced miss radius of 1.9 tiles, meaning an unobstructed grenade will always land within 1 grid tile of their target (including diagonals), and will always hit the intended tile. This means [[Skills#Shooting|Shooting]] skill, [[shooting accuracy]], and health of the grenadier is irrelevant. [[Aiming time]] effects do still apply however.
-They are thrown with the same animation as of shooting, they cannot be used over walls and must have a direct line of sight. A circular zone will generate to indicate range, then another 3x3 indicator with a circular center will become the aiming spot. The character cannot hold both the grenades and another weapon at the same time.
+Grenades are treated as a proper weapon, so can't be wielde with another one. Each set of frag grenades can be thrown infinitely; they are not consumed by use. They are fired like any other ranged weapon, so they cannot be used over walls and must have a direct line of sight.  A circular zone will generate to indicate range, then another 3x3 indicator with a circular center will become the aiming spot.
-Grenades will always land within 1 tile of their targeted tile, including on the diagonal, unless the path of the grenade intersects with a wall or object. This forced miss radius means that [[Skills#Shooting|Shooting]] skill and [[shooting accuracy]] of the grenadier is irrelevant. The grenades will not get any more or less accurate based on the skills or health of the thrower. [[Aiming time]] effects do still apply however.
 When throwing a grenade down an 1-tile wide alley, a pawn can consistently throw a grenade 4 tiles, not including the tile the pawn is standing on, without intersecting the two side walls. Beyond 4 tiles, there is a risk of hitting the wall and dropping short. This can be relevant to prevent friendly fire or damaging defenses during combat.
-When damaged with [[Damage Types#Flame|Flame]] damage{{Check Tag|How much?|Any damage? Below a certain threshold? What threshold?}}, they may explode. The grenades will spark and emit a hissing sound shortly before exploding some time later. The explosion deals 50 Bomb damage in a 2.66 tile radius around itself.
+When damaged with [[Damage Types#Flame|Flame]] damage{{Check Tag|How much?|Any damage? Below a certain threshold? What threshold?}}, the grenade item may explode. The grenades will spark and emit a hissing sound shortly before exploding some time later. The explosion deals 50 Bomb damage in a 2.66 tile radius around itself.
 Frag grenades have no [[quality]] - every set of grenades will have the same stats, regardless of the skill of the crafter.