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The greatbow is a moderately heavy, single-shot ranged weapon which deals a slightly higher amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly longer range and high overall accuracy.

Acquisition[edit]

Greatbows can be crafted at a crafting spot, fueled smithy, or electric smithy once the greatbow research project has been completed. Each requires 60 Wood, 9,000 ticks (2.5 mins) of work modified by the general labor speed of the crafter, and a crafting skill of 6.

Great bows can also be purchased from neolithic war merchants and orbital combat suppliers, or obtained from the following raider kinds:

Raider Kind	Chance	Average Quality	Health
Heavy archer	42.22%	Normal	50-180%
Archer chief	93.25%	Normal	100%

Analysis[edit]

The greatbow is the most powerful pre-industrial ranged weapon. Roughly on par with weak firearms like autopistols and revolvers, it is rapidly outclassed by most other guns. Due to the research required, crafting greatbows is usually not a great idea. However, a greatbow obtained from other means, such as by loot, quest, event, or by trade, can be useful in the early game.

As a weapon, the greatbow dominates all ranged weapons for its tech level. For a bow, it has great accuracy and range. While the AP is worse than even a short bow, the damage easily makes up for it. With the highest range before bolt-action rifles and a relatively short cooldown, the greatbow is ideal for both preventing, and escaping from, hunted animals going manhunter. It's worth noting that the greatbow has a longer warmup than cooldown, which is reversed for the other two bows. This synergizes well with Aiming Time reductions.

Compared to a recurve bow of the same quality, the greatbow has overall better damage and range. A recurve bow one or two quality levels above can have better DPS at the short-medium range though.
Compared to autopistols and revolvers, the greatbow is more accurate from a distance, and has higher max range. However, both handguns outdamage the greatbow up close.
The greatbow is actually very similar in role to the bolt-action rifle, just with worse stats. A bolt-action rifle has better DPS, range, long-range accuracy as a greatbow of the same quality.

The main issue of this weapon is the research required - greatbows are a dead-end project, and greatbows themselves are quickly outclassed by guns that can be looted and crafted early. Therefore, actually doing the research is often a waste of time. Should you find or craft a particularly high quality greatbow, however, it can remain competitive in the early game. The main advantage of greatbows is their cost, not using any components or steel that could be otherwise spent on other options.

Quality comparisons[edit]

High quality greatbows can occasionally be obtained as a quest reward. Particularly high quality greatbows can be better than many types of guns.

A masterwork greatbow beats an excellent (and lower) bolt-action rifle at any range the bow can reach, though its AP and max range are still shorter.
Up close (12 tiles), a greatbow 1 quality level higher generally beats a bolt action, e.g. good greatbow > normal bolt-action. The one exception is that an excellent greatbow is still inferior to a good bolt action rifle.
At medium (25 tile) range and beyond, an excellent greatbow is outperformed by a poor bolt-action.

Stats[edit]

Against an unarmored human, a greatbow can kill with 3 hits to the torso, 2 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 2 hits; and destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 4 hits (~19.5 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

Attack table

Ranged

Greatbow			Accuracy (Touch)	Accuracy (Short)	Accuracy (Medium)	Accuracy (Long)	DPS (Optimal)	DPS (Touch)	DPS (Short)	DPS (Medium)	DPS (Long)	Market value
Quality	Dam.	AP	Accuracy (Touch)	Accuracy (Short)	Accuracy (Medium)	Accuracy (Long)	DPS (Optimal)	DPS (Touch)	DPS (Short)	DPS (Medium)	DPS (Long)	Market value
Awful	15.3	13.5%	52%	68%	60%	40%	4.37	2.27	2.97	2.62	1.75	52
Poor	17	15%	58.5%	76.5%	67.5%	45%	4.86	2.87	3.74	3.3	2.19	78
Normal	17	15%	65%	85%	75%	50%	4.86	3.16	4.13	3.65	2.43	104
Good	17	15%	71.5%	93.5%	82.5%	55%	4.86	3.5	4.57	4.03	2.67	130
Excellent	17	15%	78%	100%	90%	60%	4.86	3.79	4.86	4.37	2.92	156
Masterwork	21.25	18.75%	87.75%	100%	100%	67.5%	6.08	5.35	6.08	6.08	4.13	260
Legendary	25.5	22.5%	97.5%	100%	100%	75%	7.29	7.14	7.29	7.29	5.47	520

^{For the full effects of qualities, see Quality. Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band.
The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.}

Melee

Feature	Toggle
Attacks

Greatbow			Limb (Blunt)					Limb (Poke)					Human: Left & right fist (Blunt)					HP	Value
Quality	DPS^[1]	AP^[1]	Dam.	Cool.	AP	DPS	Chance^[2]	Dam.	Cool.	AP	DPS	Chance^[2]	Dam.	Cool.	AP	DPS	Chance^[2]	HP	Value
Awful	3.98	11.6%	7.2	2s	10.4%	3.6	12.5%	7.2	2s	10.4%	3.6	12.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 37.5%	100	52
Poor	4.08	11.85%	8.1	2s	11.7%	4.05	25%	8.1	2s	11.7%	4.05	25%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 25%	100	78
Normal	4.4	12.75%	9	2s	13%	4.5	37.5%	9	2s	13%	4.5	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	104
Good	4.74	13.73%	9.9	2s	14.3%	4.95	37.5%	9.9	2s	14.3%	4.95	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	130
Excellent	5.08	14.7%	10.8	2s	15.6%	5.4	37.5%	10.8	2s	15.6%	5.4	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	156
Masterwork	5.92	17.14%	13.05	2s	18.85%	6.53	37.5%	13.05	2s	18.85%	6.53	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	260
Legendary	6.59	19.09%	14.85	2s	21.45%	7.43	37.5%	14.85	2s	21.45%	7.43	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	520

^{For the full effects of qualities, see Quality.}

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 Note: This is the actual base average derived from the melee verb system updated in 1.1.2610, it may sometimes disagree with the listed value in the in-game infobox.
It may also change depending on the stats and the melee verbs available to the wielder if the weapon is wielded by some other than a baseline human.
↑ Chance for attack to be selected, assuming the weapon is wielded by a baseline human. It may change depending on the melee verbs available to the wielder

Version history[edit]

0.3.410 - Added
At some point between Beta 18 and 1.2 it was nerfed. Accuracy was decreased from Touch accuracy was changed from 93% to 65%, range was decreased from 32 to 30 and damage from 18 to 17. It was also increased in weight from 1.2 to 3.0.
1.5.4062 - Received a new texture.

Texture prior to 1.5

Weapons

Melee | Neolithic: Breach axe • Club • Ikwa • Knife (Jade) • Spear

Medieval: Gladius • Longsword • Mace • Axe • Warhammer

Ultra: Eltex staff • Monosword (Persona) • Plasmasword (Persona) • Zeushammer (Persona)

Improvised: Beer • Elephant tusk • Thrumbo horn • Wood

Ranged | Neolithic: Greatbow • Pila • Recurve bow • Short bow • Flamebow

Medieval: Nerve spiker

Industrial: Assault rifle • Autopistol • Bolt-action rifle • Chain shotgun • Heavy SMG • Launcher (EMP, Incendiary, Smoke, Toxbomb ) • LMG • Machine pistol • Minigun • Pump shotgun • Revolver • Sniper rifle • Hellcat rifle • Incinerator

Spacer: Charge lance • Charge rifle

Consumables: Doomsday rocket launcher • Triple rocket launcher

Throwables: EMP grenades • Frag grenades • Molotov cocktails • Tox grenades

Mechanoid: Heavy charge blaster • Inferno cannon • Needle gun • Thump cannon • Beam graser • Charge blaster turret • Hellsphere cannon • Mini-flameblaster • Mini-shotgun • Slugthrower • Spiner • Toxic needle gun

Structures: Autocannon • Mini-turret gun • Mortar (Weapon) • Uranium slug cannon • Auto-mortar • Inferno cannon (Turret) • Light charge blaster • Mini-slugger • Tactical turret gun

Related | Body part weapons: Prosthetic arm • Bionic arm • Archotech arm • Power claw • Field hand • Drill arm • Venom talon • Venom fangs • Knee spike • Elbow blade • Hand talon • Flesh whip

Integrated weapons: Grenadier armor • Phoenix armor

[Actual-1] 1.0 ^1.1 Note: This is the actual base average derived from the melee verb system updated in 1.1.2610, it may sometimes disagree with the listed value in the in-game infobox.
It may also change depending on the stats and the melee verbs available to the wielder if the weapon is wielded by some other than a baseline human.

[Chance-2] Chance for attack to be selected, assuming the weapon is wielded by a baseline human. It may change depending on the melee verbs available to the wielder

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[2]

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+{{Infobox main|weapon
 | name = Greatbow
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+| image = GreatBow.png
 | description = A powerful greatbow. Fires a heavy arrow long distances.
 | type = Equipment
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+| tech level = Neolithic
 | class = Neolithic
 | damage = 17
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 | accuracyLong = 50
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 | mode = Single-Shot
 | warmup = 120
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-| MeleeWeaponAverageDPS = 4.5
-| MeleeWeaponAverageAP = 13
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 | skill 1 = Crafting
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-}}{{info|The '''greatbow''' is a moderately heavy, single-shot ranged weapon which deals a slightly higher amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly longer range and high overall accuracy.}}
+| tradeTags = WeaponRanged
+}}
+{{Info|The '''greatbow''' is a moderately heavy, single-shot ranged weapon which deals a slightly higher amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly longer range and high overall accuracy.}}
 == Acquisition ==
-Great bows can be manufactured at [[fueled smithy|any]] [[electric smithy|smithy]] once the [[Research#Greatbow|greatbow]] research has been completed; from {{Required Resources}} and {{Ticks|{{P|Work To Make}}}} of work. A crafting level of at least 6 is required.
+{{Acquisition}}
-Great bows can also be purchased from neolithic war merchants and orbital combat suppliers, or obtained from the following [[raider#Humanlike|raider]] kinds:
+Great bows can also be purchased from neolithic [[Trade#War_merchant|war merchants]] and orbital combat suppliers, or obtained from the following [[raider#Humanlike|raider]] kinds:
 {| class="wikitable sortable"
-|-
 ! Raider Kind !! Chance !! Average Quality !! Health
 |-
-| Heavy Archer || 42.22% || Normal || 50-180%
+| [[Tribals#Heavy archer|Heavy archer]] || 42.22% || Normal || 50-180%
 |-
-| Archer Chief || 93.25% || Normal || 100%
+| [[Tribals#Archer chief|Archer chief]] || 93.25% || Normal || 100%
 |}
 == Analysis ==
-Greatbows are the most powerful overall neolithic-tier ranged weapons in the game, beating the [[recurve bow]] in terms of range and damage, and handily beating the other options in its class. Accuracy at short and medium distances is also very good, as well as stopping power which is high enough not only to stagger [[human]]s, but also slightly larger targets such as [[cougar]]s and all [[insectoids]].  Interestingly, the greatbow has a shorter cooldown than the [[short bow]] and recurve bow, as well as a longer warmup than cooldown, which is reversed compared to the aforementioned bows.
+The greatbow is the most powerful pre-industrial ranged weapon. Roughly on par with weak firearms like [[autopistol]]s and [[revolver]]s, it is rapidly outclassed by most other guns. Due to the research required, crafting greatbows is usually not a great idea. However, a greatbow obtained from other means, such as by loot, quest, event, or by trade, can be useful in the early game.
-Close-up accuracy is worse than the other bows though, with close DPS only being on par with the recurve bow's. This weapon's also less skill-friendly than the other bow variants due to the aforementioned close-up accuracy as well as a longer warmup/cooldown cycle. The greatbow also surprisingly has the second-lowest armor penetration out of all neolithic-tier ranged weapons; even the short bow has better AP - the greatbow's DPS makes up for this though.
+As a weapon, the greatbow dominates all ranged weapons for its tech level. For a bow, it has great accuracy and range. While the {{AP}} is worse than even a [[short bow]], the damage easily makes up for it. With the highest range before [[bolt-action rifle]]s and a relatively short cooldown, the greatbow is ideal for both preventing, and escaping from, hunted animals going manhunter. It's worth noting that the greatbow has a longer warmup than cooldown, which is reversed for the other two bows. This synergizes well with [[Aiming Time]] reductions.
-Mass is also higher than most other neolithic-tier ranged weapons (similar to many rifle-class firearms), with only the [[pila]] having an even higher mass. However, the greatbow's mass is still low enough that it generally won't have an adverse effect on a colonist's caravanning capabilities.
+* Compared to a [[recurve bow]] of the same quality, the greatbow has overall better damage and range. A recurve bow one or two quality levels above can have better {{DPS}} at the short-medium range though.
+* Compared to autopistols and revolvers, the greatbow is more accurate from a distance, and has higher max range. However, both handguns outdamage the greatbow up close.
+* The greatbow is actually very similar in role to the [[bolt-action rifle]], just with worse stats. A bolt-action rifle has better {{DPS}}, range, long-range accuracy as a greatbow of the same quality.
-Similarly to the recurve bow, the greatbow's suitable for offensive and support roles. However, unlike the recurve bow, the greatbow's strictly best used in short-to-medium distance engagements due to its relatively poor close-quarters accuracy. This weapon's also an excellent choice for a hunting weapon, being nearly as good as the [[bolt-action rifle]] in this regard.
+The main issue of this weapon is the research required - greatbows are a dead-end project, and greatbows themselves are quickly outclassed by guns that can be looted and crafted early. Therefore, actually doing the research is often a waste of time. Should you find or craft a particularly high quality greatbow, however, it can remain competitive in the early game. The main advantage of greatbows is their cost, not using any components or steel that could be otherwise spent on other options.
-Against an unarmored human, a greatbow can kill with 3 hits to the torso, 2 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 2 hits; and destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 4 hits (~18.6 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.
+=== Quality comparisons ===
+High quality greatbows can occasionally be obtained as a [[quest]] reward. Particularly high quality greatbows can be better than many types of guns.
-While it is the best of the bows, it is rapidly outclassed by even early guns of the same [[quality]]. Even Tribal starts will loot firearms to replace it, making researching it largely a waste of time. Should you find or craft a particularly high quality greatbow it might remain competitive in the early game.
+* A masterwork greatbow beats an excellent (and lower) bolt-action rifle at any range the bow can reach, though its {{AP}} and max range are still shorter.
+* Up close (12 tiles), a greatbow 1 quality level higher generally beats a bolt action, e.g. good greatbow > normal bolt-action. The one exception is that an excellent greatbow is still inferior to a good bolt action rifle.
+* At medium (25 tile) range and beyond, an excellent greatbow is outperformed by a poor bolt-action.
-{{Weapon Quality Table}}
+=== Stats ===
-==Melee Combat==
+Against an unarmored human, a greatbow can kill with 3 hits to the torso, 2 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 2 hits; and destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 4 hits (~19.5 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.
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 == Version history ==
 * [[Version/0.3.410|0.3.410]] - Added
 * At some point between Beta 18 and 1.2 it was nerfed. Accuracy was decreased from Touch accuracy was changed from 93% to 65%, range was decreased from 32 to 30 and damage from 18 to 17. It was also increased in weight from 1.2 to 3.0.
+* [[Version/1.5.4062|1.5.4062]] - Received a new texture.
+<gallery>
+GreatBow Old.png|Texture prior to 1.5
+</gallery>
-[[Kind::Weapons| ]]
+{{Nav|weapon|wide}}
-{{nav|weapon|wide}}
+[[Category:Equipment]] [[Category:Weapons]] [[Category:Neolithic Weapons]]
-[[Category:Weapons]]
+[[Category:Ranged Weapons]] [[Category:Single-Shot Weapons]] [[Category:Bows]]
-[[Category:Equipment]]