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The greatbow is a moderately heavy, single-shot ranged weapon which deals a slightly higher amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly longer range and high overall accuracy.

Acquisition[edit]

Greatbows can be crafted at a crafting spot, fueled smithy, or electric smithy once the greatbow research project has been completed. Each requires 60 Wood, 9,000 ticks (2.5 mins) of work modified by the general labor speed of the crafter, and a crafting skill of 6.

Great bows can also be purchased from neolithic war merchants and orbital combat suppliers, or obtained from the following raider kinds:

Raider Kind	Chance	Average Quality	Health
Heavy archer	42.22%	Normal	50-180%
Archer chief	93.25%	Normal	100%

Analysis[edit]

The greatbow is the most powerful pre-industrial ranged weapon. Roughly on par with weak firearms like autopistols and revolvers, it is rapidly outclassed by most other guns. Due to the research required, crafting greatbows is usually not a great idea. However, a greatbow obtained from other means, such as by loot, quest, event, or by trade, can be useful in the early game.

As a weapon, the greatbow dominates all ranged weapons for its tech level. For a bow, it has great accuracy and range. While the AP is worse than even a short bow, the damage easily makes up for it. With the highest range before bolt-action rifles and a relatively short cooldown, the greatbow is ideal for both preventing, and escaping from, hunted animals going manhunter. It's worth noting that the greatbow has a longer warmup than cooldown, which is reversed for the other two bows. This synergizes well with Aiming Time reductions.

Compared to a recurve bow of the same quality, the greatbow has overall better damage and range. A recurve bow one or two quality levels above can have better DPS at the short-medium range though.
Compared to autopistols and revolvers, the greatbow is more accurate from a distance, and has higher max range. However, both handguns outdamage the greatbow up close.
The greatbow is actually very similar in role to the bolt-action rifle, just with worse stats. A bolt-action rifle has better DPS, range, long-range accuracy as a greatbow of the same quality.

The main issue of this weapon is the research required - greatbows are a dead-end project, and greatbows themselves are quickly outclassed by guns that can be looted and crafted early. Therefore, actually doing the research is often a waste of time. Should you find or craft a particularly high quality greatbow, however, it can remain competitive in the early game. The main advantage of greatbows is their cost, not using any components or steel that could be otherwise spent on other options.

Quality comparisons[edit]

High quality greatbows can occasionally be obtained as a quest reward. Particularly high quality greatbows can be better than many types of guns.

A masterwork greatbow beats an excellent (and lower) bolt-action rifle at any range the bow can reach, though its AP and max range are still shorter.
Up close (12 tiles), a greatbow 1 quality level higher generally beats a bolt action, e.g. good greatbow > normal bolt-action. The one exception is that an excellent greatbow is still inferior to a good bolt action rifle.
At medium (25 tile) range and beyond, an excellent greatbow is outperformed by a poor bolt-action.

Stats[edit]

Against an unarmored human, a greatbow can kill with 3 hits to the torso, 2 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 2 hits; and destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 4 hits (~19.5 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

Attack table

Ranged

Greatbow			Accuracy (Touch)	Accuracy (Short)	Accuracy (Medium)	Accuracy (Long)	DPS (Optimal)	DPS (Touch)	DPS (Short)	DPS (Medium)	DPS (Long)	Market value
Quality	Dam.	AP	Accuracy (Touch)	Accuracy (Short)	Accuracy (Medium)	Accuracy (Long)	DPS (Optimal)	DPS (Touch)	DPS (Short)	DPS (Medium)	DPS (Long)	Market value
Awful	15.3	13.5%	52%	68%	60%	40%	4.37	2.27	2.97	2.62	1.75	52
Poor	17	15%	58.5%	76.5%	67.5%	45%	4.86	2.87	3.74	3.3	2.19	78
Normal	17	15%	65%	85%	75%	50%	4.86	3.16	4.13	3.65	2.43	104
Good	17	15%	71.5%	93.5%	82.5%	55%	4.86	3.5	4.57	4.03	2.67	130
Excellent	17	15%	78%	100%	90%	60%	4.86	3.79	4.86	4.37	2.92	156
Masterwork	21.25	18.75%	87.75%	100%	100%	67.5%	6.08	5.35	6.08	6.08	4.13	260
Legendary	25.5	22.5%	97.5%	100%	100%	75%	7.29	7.14	7.29	7.29	5.47	520

^{For the full effects of qualities, see Quality. Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band.
The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.}

Melee

Feature	Toggle
Attacks

Greatbow			Limb (Blunt)					Limb (Poke)					Human: Left & right fist (Blunt)					HP	Value
Quality	DPS^[1]	AP^[1]	Dam.	Cool.	AP	DPS	Chance^[2]	Dam.	Cool.	AP	DPS	Chance^[2]	Dam.	Cool.	AP	DPS	Chance^[2]	HP	Value
Awful	3.98	11.6%	7.2	2s	10.4%	3.6	12.5%	7.2	2s	10.4%	3.6	12.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 37.5%	100	52
Poor	4.08	11.85%	8.1	2s	11.7%	4.05	25%	8.1	2s	11.7%	4.05	25%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 25%	100	78
Normal	4.4	12.75%	9	2s	13%	4.5	37.5%	9	2s	13%	4.5	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	104
Good	4.74	13.73%	9.9	2s	14.3%	4.95	37.5%	9.9	2s	14.3%	4.95	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	130
Excellent	5.08	14.7%	10.8	2s	15.6%	5.4	37.5%	10.8	2s	15.6%	5.4	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	156
Masterwork	5.92	17.14%	13.05	2s	18.85%	6.53	37.5%	13.05	2s	18.85%	6.53	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	260
Legendary	6.59	19.09%	14.85	2s	21.45%	7.43	37.5%	14.85	2s	21.45%	7.43	37.5%	8.2	2s	12%	4.1	2× 12.5%	100	520

^{For the full effects of qualities, see Quality.}

↑ ^1.0 ^1.1 Note: This is the actual base average derived from the melee verb system updated in 1.1.2610, it may sometimes disagree with the listed value in the in-game infobox.
It may also change depending on the stats and the melee verbs available to the wielder if the weapon is wielded by some other than a baseline human.
↑ Chance for attack to be selected, assuming the weapon is wielded by a baseline human. It may change depending on the melee verbs available to the wielder

Version history[edit]

0.3.410 - Added
At some point between Beta 18 and 1.2 it was nerfed. Accuracy was decreased from Touch accuracy was changed from 93% to 65%, range was decreased from 32 to 30 and damage from 18 to 17. It was also increased in weight from 1.2 to 3.0.
1.5.4062 - Received a new texture.

Texture prior to 1.5

Weapons

Melee | Neolithic: Breach axe • Club • Ikwa • Knife (Jade) • Spear

Medieval: Gladius • Longsword • Mace • Axe • Warhammer

Ultra: Eltex staff • Monosword (Persona) • Plasmasword (Persona) • Zeushammer (Persona)

Improvised: Beer • Elephant tusk • Thrumbo horn • Wood

Ranged | Neolithic: Greatbow • Pila • Recurve bow • Short bow • Flamebow

Medieval: Nerve spiker

Industrial: Assault rifle • Autopistol • Bolt-action rifle • Chain shotgun • Heavy SMG • Launcher (EMP, Incendiary, Smoke, Toxbomb ) • LMG • Machine pistol • Minigun • Pump shotgun • Revolver • Sniper rifle • Hellcat rifle • Incinerator

Spacer: Charge lance • Charge rifle

Consumables: Doomsday rocket launcher • Triple rocket launcher

Throwables: EMP grenades • Frag grenades • Molotov cocktails • Tox grenades

Mechanoid: Heavy charge blaster • Inferno cannon • Needle gun • Thump cannon • Beam graser • Charge blaster turret • Hellsphere cannon • Mini-flameblaster • Mini-shotgun • Slugthrower • Spiner • Toxic needle gun

Structures: Autocannon • Mini-turret gun • Mortar (Weapon) • Uranium slug cannon • Auto-mortar • Inferno cannon (Turret) • Light charge blaster • Mini-slugger • Tactical turret gun

Related | Body part weapons: Prosthetic arm • Bionic arm • Archotech arm • Power claw • Field hand • Drill arm • Venom talon • Venom fangs • Knee spike • Elbow blade • Hand talon • Flesh whip

Integrated weapons: Grenadier armor • Phoenix armor

[Actual-1] 1.0 ^1.1 Note: This is the actual base average derived from the melee verb system updated in 1.1.2610, it may sometimes disagree with the listed value in the in-game infobox.
It may also change depending on the stats and the melee verbs available to the wielder if the weapon is wielded by some other than a baseline human.

[Chance-2] Chance for attack to be selected, assuming the weapon is wielded by a baseline human. It may change depending on the melee verbs available to the wielder

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+| description = A powerful greatbow. Fires a heavy arrow long distances.
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+| armorPenetration = 15
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+| accuracyTouch = 65
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+| work speed stat = General Labor Speed
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+| meleeattack1part = Limb
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+{{Info|The '''greatbow''' is a moderately heavy, single-shot ranged weapon which deals a slightly higher amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly longer range and high overall accuracy.}}
-{{info|The Great Bow is a light, single-shot ranged weapon in RimWorld which deals a slightly higher amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly longer range and high accuracy.}}
-It takes 3 shots to the torso to kill an unarmored human with a greatbow, or around 5 shots against a human with a normal armor vest. The greatbow can also instantly remove digits, cripple eyeballs and cause lethal brain damage if the victim's skull is unprotected. Limbs can be crippled in 2 shots against an unarmored human.
+== Acquisition ==
+{{Acquisition}}
-Since the greatbow has a slightly longer than typical time between shots, is single-shot in nature and has a fairly long range, it's best to pair the greatbow with a competent shooter to make the most of it. A healthy level 8 traitless shooter, level 4 careful shooter or level 10 trigger-happy can somewhat efficiently use the greatbow up to 22 cells. However, a level 13 traitless shooter, level 10 careful shooter or level 15 trigger-happy shooter is advisable to efficiently use the greatbow up to its maximum range of 32 cells.
+Great bows can also be purchased from neolithic [[Trade#War_merchant|war merchants]] and orbital combat suppliers, or obtained from the following [[raider#Humanlike|raider]] kinds:
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
+! Raider Kind !! Chance !! Average Quality !! Health
+|-
+| [[Tribals#Heavy archer|Heavy archer]] || 42.22% || Normal || 50-180%
+|-
+| [[Tribals#Archer chief|Archer chief]] || 93.25% || Normal || 100%
+|}
-On average, the greatbow is best paired with a careful shooter until level 12, and with a trigger-happy shooter beyond that point.
+== Analysis ==
+The greatbow is the most powerful pre-industrial ranged weapon. Roughly on par with weak firearms like [[autopistol]]s and [[revolver]]s, it is rapidly outclassed by most other guns. Due to the research required, crafting greatbows is usually not a great idea. However, a greatbow obtained from other means, such as by loot, quest, event, or by trade, can be useful in the early game.
+As a weapon, the greatbow dominates all ranged weapons for its tech level. For a bow, it has great accuracy and range. While the {{AP}} is worse than even a [[short bow]], the damage easily makes up for it. With the highest range before [[bolt-action rifle]]s and a relatively short cooldown, the greatbow is ideal for both preventing, and escaping from, hunted animals going manhunter. It's worth noting that the greatbow has a longer warmup than cooldown, which is reversed for the other two bows. This synergizes well with [[Aiming Time]] reductions.
-===Obtaining===
+* Compared to a [[recurve bow]] of the same quality, the greatbow has overall better damage and range. A recurve bow one or two quality levels above can have better {{DPS}} at the short-medium range though.
-Great bows can be purchased from neolithic war merchants and orbital combat suppliers, or obtained from the following [[raider#Humanlike|raider]] kinds:
+* Compared to autopistols and revolvers, the greatbow is more accurate from a distance, and has higher max range. However, both handguns outdamage the greatbow up close.
+* The greatbow is actually very similar in role to the [[bolt-action rifle]], just with worse stats. A bolt-action rifle has better {{DPS}}, range, long-range accuracy as a greatbow of the same quality.
-'''Tribal:'''
+The main issue of this weapon is the research required - greatbows are a dead-end project, and greatbows themselves are quickly outclassed by guns that can be looted and crafted early. Therefore, actually doing the research is often a waste of time. Should you find or craft a particularly high quality greatbow, however, it can remain competitive in the early game. The main advantage of greatbows is their cost, not using any components or steel that could be otherwise spent on other options.
-* Heavy Archer - 43.4% (normal [[quality]] on average, 50-220% health)
-* Chief - 100% (superior quality on average, 70-300% health)
+=== Quality comparisons ===
+High quality greatbows can occasionally be obtained as a [[quest]] reward. Particularly high quality greatbows can be better than many types of guns.
-Great bows can also be manufactured at [[fueled smithy|a]] [[electric smithy|smithy]] once the [[research#Greatbows|greatbows]] research has been completed; from 50 [[wood]] and {{ticks|18000}} of work.
+* A masterwork greatbow beats an excellent (and lower) bolt-action rifle at any range the bow can reach, though its {{AP}} and max range are still shorter.
+* Up close (12 tiles), a greatbow 1 quality level higher generally beats a bolt action, e.g. good greatbow > normal bolt-action. The one exception is that an excellent greatbow is still inferior to a good bolt action rifle.
+* At medium (25 tile) range and beyond, an excellent greatbow is outperformed by a poor bolt-action.
+=== Stats ===
+Against an unarmored human, a greatbow can kill with 3 hits to the torso, 2 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 2 hits; and destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 4 hits (~19.5 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.
-===Conclusion & Comparison===
+{{Weapon Stats Table}}
-Although the greatbow is an outdated weapon, that doesn't mean it's a weapon to be underestimated in the slightest; it has a higher sustained damage output than all other neolithic tier weapons, and can even hold its own against low-tier modern firearms like the [[autopistol]] and [[revolver]]. The greatbow even offers superior damage output to the [[bolt-action rifle]] until 14 cells. The only neolithic weapon that can really compete with the greatbow is the [[pila]] since a single pilum can instantly destroy a vital organ or cripple a limb, instantly killing or severely hindering the enemy's combat capacity.
+== Version history ==
+* [[Version/0.3.410|0.3.410]] - Added
+* At some point between Beta 18 and 1.2 it was nerfed. Accuracy was decreased from Touch accuracy was changed from 93% to 65%, range was decreased from 32 to 30 and damage from 18 to 17. It was also increased in weight from 1.2 to 3.0.
+* [[Version/1.5.4062|1.5.4062]] - Received a new texture.
+<gallery>
+GreatBow Old.png|Texture prior to 1.5
+</gallery>
-Interestingly, when talking about higher quality levels, the greatbow will slowly start to dominate the substantially more expensive bolt-action rifle in terms of DPS, achieving complete domination by masterwork quality for both weapons. This is because the bolt-action rifle already near-maxes out its accuracy at normal quality so it doesn't gain that much from being above good quality, but the greatbow will continue to make improvements in that aspect. Unless the extra 5 cells of range and higher projectile velocity of the bolt-action rifle matters, then you're actually better off using the greatbow.
+{{Nav|weapon|wide}}
-That being said though, the [[assault rifle]] is also a very strong competitor because of its superior damage output and almost identical range, but the greatbow's higher damage per shot means that it may be better at crippling limbs in some situations.
+[[Category:Equipment]] [[Category:Weapons]] [[Category:Neolithic Weapons]]
+[[Category:Ranged Weapons]] [[Category:Single-Shot Weapons]] [[Category:Bows]]
-==Graphs==
-The graphs assume a normal quality greatbow against an adult human that's out in the open in clear weather. For DPS, projectile speed has also been factored into the equation, with the weighting based on the base amount of attacks that it'll take to put the aforementioned target into pain shock.
-[[File:GreatBowAccuracyNoTrait.png|494px|Great Bow's accuracy with various shooters without any trait.]]
-[[File:GreatBowDPSNoTrait.png|494px|Great Bow's DPS with various shooters without any trait.]]
-[[File:GreatBowAccuracyCarefulShooter.png|494px|Great Bow's accuracy with various shooters with careful shooter.]]
-[[File:GreatBowDPSCarefulShooter.png|494px|Great Bow's DPS with various shooters with careful shooter.]]
-[[File:GreatBowAccuracyTriggerHappy.png|494px|Great Bow's accuracy with various shooters with trigger-happy.]]
-[[File:GreatBowDPSTriggerHappy.png|494px|Great Bow's DPS with various shooters with trigger-happy.]]
-[[Kind::Weapons| ]]
-{{nav|weapon|wide}}
-[[Category:Weapons]]
-[[Category:Equipment]]