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Toxic wastepacks are waste products created by mech-related buildings or the cleanup of polluted tiles.

Acquisition[edit]

Pollution pumps and pawns manually cleaning pollution on the ground will generate wastepacks, at a rate of 1 wastepack per 6 polluted tiles. Wastepacks may also be dropped into your colony as part of a quest.

Mechanoid Recharging and Gestation[edit]

Toxic wastepacks are produced when friendly mechanoids utilize mech rechargers or large mech rechargers, or whenever a mech gestator or large mech gestator finishes gestating one. The amount of wastepacks produced is proportional to the Bandwidth of the mech recharged or gestated.

Mechanoid Type	Bandwidth	Wastepacks Per Recharge
Agrihand, Cleansweeper, Constructoid, Fabricor, Lifter, Militor, Paramedic, Scorcher	1	5
Legionary, Pikeman, Scyther	2	10
Lancer, Tesseron, Tunneler	3	15
Centipede blaster, Centipede burner, Centipede gunner	4	20
Centurion, Diabolus, War queen	5	25

Summary[edit]

Up to 5 toxic wastepacks can fit into 1 tile, and they do not fit on shelves.

Pollution[edit]

When a wastepack is destroyed in any fashion, they will pollute 6 ground tiles of a colony, per wastepack. A full stack of 5 wastepacks pollutes 30 tiles. This pollution can spread through constructed walls, but will not bypass natural stone walls.

When burned or damaged, wastepacks release tox gas, in addition to the pollution.

When dumped from a caravan or sent via unmanned transport pod, wastepacks will lower the goodwill of a nearby faction or the faction base that you polluted. The goodwill loss is proportional to the amount of waste dumped: −1 goodwill for just a few packs nearby, −60 or more for multiple pods filled with wastepacks dumped directly on a base. Factions (except tribes) may retaliate by dropping wastepacks back at you, and hostile factions may send an additional raid.

Wastepacks dumped on the world map immediately pollute the world tile by 0.05%, requiring 2000 wastepacks to completely pollute a hex from 0% to 100%.

Dissolving[edit]

1 wastepack per stack will dissolve every 8 days, with the following factors:

0.5x if indoors.
2x if in rain and outdoors, even if roofed.
0x if 0 °C (32 °F) or lower. Any temperature above freezing point will not slow the dissolving of the wastepack.

The packs also deteriorate in the same way as all other items. As an example, 5 Toxic wastepacks left out in the rain will dissolve 1 wastepack after 4 days and deteriorate the rest over the course of the next day or so as they lose HP at a rate of 20 per day outside in the rain. This means that even if temperature is below freezing when left outside or unroofed, a wastepack will slowly lose HP and eventually be destroyed, releasing the pollution inside. Unlike most other items, deterioration leaves behind the pollution inside rather than deleting the item altogether.

Analysis[edit]

Storage[edit]

A 7x7 room holds 245 wastepacks, and can be cooled by a single cooler in a double-walled room, and is effective up to an outside temperature of 41 °C (105.8 °F). 245 wastepacks are enough storage:

To constantly run 8 bandwidth worth of mechanoids for 1 entire year, 4 bandwidth of mechs for 2 years...
To store the waste of 2 toxifier generators for 6 years. A pollution pump, or a pawn cleaning the pollution by hand, is required to turn ground pollution into wastepacks.

Depending on climate and freezer setup, you can get more storage with 1 cooler. And this is 1 cooler - worth 90 Steel, 3 Components and -200 W of power (plus the material for walls and doors). You can easily use multiple coolers to store your waste. This gives you enough time to get a form of waste disposal ready.

Disposal[edit]

credit to /u/BenightedAlizar on r/rimworld

Most means of destroying wastepacks have some sort of consequence:

Letting it pollute. Pollution is localized - wastepacks that deteriorate or dissolve away from your base won't have an impact, at least for a while. Insectoids may come as wastepacks are destroyed, and acidic smog can happen at high enough pollution levels.
Dumping it offsite. Dumping near a faction base (up to 41 tiles?^{[Safe distance?]}) will lower goodwill proportional to distance, wastepacks, and current goodwill. Wastepacks may also be dropped back at you, and if the faction is already hostile, you may start a raid. Dumping within 4 tiles of your colony will increase the chance for acidic smog.
- Caravans take time and food to set up, and have a limited carrying capacity - especially without pack animals or friendly mechanoids.
- Transport pods can dump wastepacks far away. You can choose which faction to anger, or possibly dump it away from anybody. 1 pod, which can store up to 25 wastepacks, and per launch costs 60 Steel, 1 Component, and a variable amount of chemfuel depending on how far you launch it.
- Shuttles store up to 166 wastepacks (1000kg) at a time, and simply transporting waste will not anger the Empire - dumping it has the usual penalties. This costs 1 permit slot, has a cooldown of 40 days, and requires a noble pawn of at least Knight/Dame rank. This permit can theoretically support up to 5 bandwidth without honor costs (although the realistic value is slightly smaller).
Wastepack atomizers have no direct consequences from their use. However, they require a precious nano structuring chip to create, a fair amount of power, and aren't fast. One atomizer can support 4.8 bandwidth of mechanoids - a mechanitor is very likely to have more.
Polux trees, which are another clean form of pollution removal. These trees only grow naturally if there is plenty of pollution already, though seeds can be bought from traders. They clean only 20% as fast as a Wastepack atomizer, and can only clean if there is no artificial buildings in the area, but will erase pollution directly from the ground. This is also a downside for dealing with future pollution, as these trees do not stop wastepack infestations.

Diabolus destroying wastepacks pods

When a landed transport pod is destroyed, its contents are vanished, which allows you:

Bomb landed transport pods, which exploitatively deletes wastepacks carried in them, leaving only steel slag chunks and no pollution. Each pod can load 25 wastepacks. However this method costs a lot of steels and components to operate.
- While pods drop scattered around the target position, they always drop in the chosen, enclosed room.
- The most reliable way to destroy landed transport pods is the hellsphere cannon of a Diabolus, which can destroy 25 pods and 625 wastepacks in one hit.

A pawn can be ordered to carry any chosen item by forming caravans. Additionally, by exploitatively forming caravans, a pawn can carry in its inventory up to the total colony carrying capacity, allows rapidly disposing wastepacks. This enables the following methods:

Death acidifiers, which exploitatively deletes wastepacks carried on a pawn with the implant on death. This does not cause pollution.
Subcore ripscanners, which exploitatively locks wastepacks carried on a pawn on death. The pawn's corpse can then be destroyed along with any wastepacks in its inventory. This does not cause pollution.
Pollute the undercave, which also helps you deal with fleshbeasts since they are not immune to toxic buildup. Pollution of the undercave does not pollute your colony in any way, and they cease to exist once its associated pit gate collapsed.
- Note once the polluted tiles reach the Dreadmeld's room, it will slowly die of toxic buildup, triggering the cave to collapse as normal when it does.
Pollute the labyrinth, but you must destroy all wastepacks there, or the warped obelisk will teleport them back to your colony when you leave there.
Pollute the metal hell, wastepacks dropped there do not come back with your pawns.

Gallery[edit]

Version history[edit]

Biotech DLC Release - Added
1.4.3542 - Fix: Can destroy wastepacks on temp tiles to avoid relationship penalty loss.
1.4.3555 - Added more consequences for dumping near a faction base.

Biotech (DLC)

Families: Relationships (Reproduction • Children)
Life stages (Babies • Children • Adults)
Furniture (Crib • Baby sleeping spot • Growth vat • Toy box • Baby decoration • School desk • Blackboard)
Mechanoids: Laborers (Agrihand • Cleansweeper • Constructoid • Fabricor • Lifter • Paramedic • Tunneler)
Combatants (Centurion • Legionary • Militor • Scorcher • Tesseron)
Commanders (Apocriton • Diabolus • War queen • War urchin)
Mechanitors: Control (Mechlink • Band node • Mech boosters • Mech signallers • Control pack • Airwire headset)
Mechanoid creation (Basic subcore • Standard subcore • High subcore • Subcore encoder • Subcore softscanner • Subcore ripscanner • Mech gestator)
Maintenance (Mech recharger)
Genetics: Xenohumans (Dirtmoles • Genies • Highmates • Hussars • Impids • Neanderthals • Pigskins • Sanguophages • Wasters • Yttakin)
Genes Germline • Xenogene • Metabolic efficiency
Genetic Modification Genepack • Gene extractor • Gene bank • Gene assembler • Gene processor • Xenogerm • Archite capsules
Deathrest (Deathrest accelerator • Deathrest capacity serum • Deathrest casket • Glucosoid pump • Hemogen amplifier • Hemopump • Psychofluid pump)
Pollution: Nature (Toxalope • Toxipotato plant • Waste rat • Gray pine tree • Pebble cactus • Rat palm tree • Witchwood tree • Stasis cocoon)
Mitigation (Wastepacks • Atomizers • Pollution pumps • Polux trees)
Adaptation Face mask • Gas mask • Tox grenades • Tox pack • Tox shell • Toxic needle gun • Toxbomb launcher • Detoxifier kidney • Detoxifier lung
Nonchalance Toxifier generator

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-'''Toxic wastepacks''' are a byproduct that is created when using mech-related buildings.
+'''Toxic wastepacks''' are waste products created by mech-related buildings or the cleanup of [[polluted]] tiles.
 == Acquisition ==
-Toxic wastepacks are a byproduct of using [[mech recharger]]s and [[mech large recharger]]s. The bigger [[mechanoid creation|your mechanoid]], the more pollution it creates. When the recharger's waste meter fills up, mechs create pollution at a rate of 1 [[bandwidth]] cost = 5 wastepacks.
+[[Pollution pump]]s and pawns manually cleaning [[pollution]] on the ground will generate wastepacks, at a rate of 1 wastepack per 6 polluted tiles. Wastepacks may also be dropped into your colony as part of a [[Quests#Wastepack_Dumping|quest]].
-They are a more contained form of pollution, so are created by [[pollution pump]]s and pawns manually cleaning [[pollution]] on the ground.
+===Mechanoid Recharging and Gestation===
+Toxic wastepacks are produced when [[friendly mechanoids]] utilize [[mech recharger]]s or [[large mech recharger]]s, or whenever a [[mech gestator]] or [[large mech gestator]] finishes gestating one. The amount of wastepacks produced is proportional to the Bandwidth of the mech recharged or gestated.
+{{Mech Bandwidth}}
-They may also be dropped into your colony in a [[quest]].
+== Summary ==
+Up to 5 toxic wastepacks can fit into 1 tile, and they do not fit on [[shelf|shelves]].
-== Summary ==
+===Pollution===
-A toxic wastepack pollutes 6 ground tiles of a colony when they detoriate. A full stack of 5 wastepacks pollutes 30 tiles. When burned or damaged, they release [[tox gas]]. (What about natural walls / walls? Do they polute underneath?).
+When a wastepack is destroyed in any fashion, they will [[pollution|pollute]] 6 ground tiles of a colony, per wastepack. A full stack of 5 wastepacks pollutes 30 tiles. This pollution can spread through constructed [[wall]]s, but will not bypass natural stone walls.
+When burned or damaged, wastepacks release [[tox gas]], in addition to the pollution.
+When dumped from a [[caravan]] or sent via unmanned [[transport pod]], wastepacks will lower the [[goodwill]] of a nearby faction or the faction base that you polluted. The goodwill loss is proportional to the amount of waste dumped: −1 goodwill for just a few  packs nearby, −60 or more for multiple pods filled with wastepacks dumped directly on a base. Factions (except tribes) may retaliate by dropping wastepacks back at you, and hostile factions may send an additional [[raid]].
-Releases [[tox gas]] when damaged, stack size is taken into account for the amount produced.{{Check Tag|Detail Needed|See CompProperties_GasOnDamage}}
+Wastepacks dumped on the world map immediately pollute the world tile by 0.05%, requiring 2000 wastepacks to completely pollute a hex from 0% to 100%.
-When dropped in a [[caravan]] or unmanned [[transport pod]], they will lower [[goodwill]] of a nearby faction by some amount. There's no extra effect on an already hostile faction. Waste dropped this way immediately pollutes the ''world'' tile they're dropped on by 0.05% - it takes 2000 wastepacks to fill a hex. Dropping them on a water hex applies an 8x multiplier, meaning 250 wastepacks will fill it.
+===Dissolving===
+wastepack per stack will dissolve every 8 days, with the following factors:
+* 0.5x if indoors.
+* 2x if in [[Weather|rain]] and outdoors, even if [[roof]]ed.
+* 0x if {{Temperature|0}} or lower. Any temperature above freezing point will not slow the dissolving of the wastepack.
-Will disolve after 8 days, with the following factors:
+The packs also deteriorate in the same way as all other items. As an example, 5 Toxic wastepacks left out in the rain will dissolve 1 wastepack after 4 days and deteriorate the rest over the course of the next day or so as they lose HP at a rate of 20 per day outside in the rain. This means that even if temperature is below freezing when left outside or unroofed, a wastepack will slowly lose HP and eventually be destroyed, releasing the pollution inside. Unlike most other items, deterioration leaves behind the pollution inside rather than deleting the item altogether.
-* 0.5x if indoors
-* 2x if in [[Weather|Rain]]
-* 0x if {{Temperature|0}} or lower. No decrease for any temperature above freezing point.
 == Analysis ==
-===Destroying===
+===Storage===
+A 7x7 room holds 245 wastepacks, and can be cooled by a single [[cooler]] in a double-walled room, and is effective up to an outside temperature of {{Temperature|41}}. 245 wastepacks are enough storage:
+*To constantly run 8 [[bandwidth]] worth of [[mechanoid creation|mechanoids]] for 1 entire year, 4 bandwidth of mechs for 2 years...
+*To store the waste of 2 [[toxifier generator]]s for ''6 years''. A [[pollution pump]], or a pawn cleaning the pollution by hand, is required to turn ground pollution into wastepacks.
+Depending on [[biome|climate]] and freezer setup, you can get more storage with 1 cooler. And this is 1 cooler - worth {{Required Resources|Cooler}} and {{Q|Cooler|Power Consumption}} W of [[power]] (plus the material for [[wall]]s and [[door]]s). You can easily use multiple coolers to store your waste. This gives you enough time to get a form of waste disposal ready.
+===Disposal===
+{{Stub|section=1|reason=Pit gate disposal, [https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/s/37oXn4gCJP ludeon approved] (External link)}}
+[[File:urxiy5rm3nw91.jpg|thumb|400px|right|<small>credit to /u/BenightedAlizar on r/rimworld</small>]]
 Most means of destroying wastepacks have some sort of consequence:
-*'''Letting it deteroriate naturally.''' Pollution is localized - wastepacks that deteroriate away from your base won't have an impact, at least for a while. [[Insectoid]]s may come due to overall pollution.
+*'''Letting it pollute.''' Pollution is localized - wastepacks that deteriorate or dissolve away from your base won't have an impact, at least for a while. [[Insectoid]]s may come as wastepacks are destroyed, and [[acidic smog]] can happen at high enough pollution levels.
-*'''Dumping it''' via [[caravan]]. Dumping within 4 tiles of your colony will still cause some pollution to spread back.
+*'''Dumping it offsite.''' Dumping near a [[faction base]] (up to 41 tiles?{{Check Tag|Safe distance?}}) will lower [[goodwill]] proportional to distance, wastepacks, and current goodwill. Wastepacks may also be dropped back at you, and if the faction is already hostile, you may start a [[raid]]. Dumping within 4 tiles of your colony will increase the chance for acidic smog.
-**Dumping near a faction will lower [[goodwill]] proportional to distance, wastepacks, and current goodwill.
+**'''[[Caravan]]s''' take time and food to set up, and have a limited carrying capacity - especially without [[pack animal]]s or [[friendly mechanoids]].
-**If the wastepack is "unintentionally" lost due to all pawns in a caravan dying, there won't be any goodwill penalties. This comes at the cost of a colonist, any [[pack animal]]s, and the respective [[mood]] penalty.
+**'''[[Transport pod]]s''' can dump wastepacks far away. You can choose which faction to anger, or possibly dump it away from anybody. 1 pod, which can store up to 25 wastepacks, and per launch costs {{Required Resources|Transport pod}}, and a variable amount of {{icon small|chemfuel}} [[chemfuel]] depending on how far you launch it.
-*'''Dumping with [[transport pod]]s'''. This costs [[steel]] and [[chemfuel]] for each launch: to send 25 wastepacks takes {{icon small|steel||50}}, {{icon small|component||1}}, and variable [[chemfuel]]. Pods allow you to easily drop waste to a faraway, hostile base, where goodwill simply doesn't matter.
+**'''[[Shuttle]]s''' {{RoyaltyIcon}} store up to 166 wastepacks (1000kg) at a time, and simply transporting waste will not anger the [[Empire]] - dumping it has the usual penalties. This costs 1 permit slot, has a cooldown of 40 days, and requires a [[noble]] pawn of at least Knight/Dame rank. This permit can theoretically support up to 5 bandwidth without honor costs (although the realistic value is slightly smaller).
-*'''[[Wastepack atomizer]]s''' have no explicit consequences. However, they are expensive to create, expensive in [[power]], and aren't fast. One atomizer can support 4.6 [[bandwidth]] of mechanoids - a [[mechanitor]] is very likely to have more.
+*'''[[Wastepack atomizer]]s''' have no direct consequences from their use. However, they require a precious [[nano structuring chip]] to create, a fair amount of [[power]], and aren't fast. One atomizer can support 4.8 [[bandwidth]] of mechanoids - a [[mechanitor]] is very likely to have more.
-*'''[[Polux tree]]s''', another clean form of pollution removal. They can't be grown manually, and only appear if there's a lot of pollution, already.
+*'''[[Polux tree]]s''', which are another clean form of pollution removal. These trees only grow naturally if there is plenty of pollution already, though [[polux seed|seeds]] can be bought from traders. They clean only 20% as fast as a [[Wastepack atomizer]], and can only clean if there is no artificial buildings in the area, but will erase [[pollution]] directly from the ground. This is also a downside for dealing with future pollution, as these trees do not stop wastepack infestations.
+[[File:Diabolus killing drop pods.png|thumb|336px|right|Diabolus destroying wastepacks pods]]
+When a landed [[transport pod]] is destroyed, its contents are vanished, which allows you:
+* '''Bomb landed transport pods''', which exploitatively deletes wastepacks carried in them, leaving only [[steel slag chunk]]s and no pollution. Each pod can load 25 wastepacks. However this method costs a lot of [[steel]]s and [[component]]s to operate.
+** While pods drop scattered around the target position, they always drop in the chosen, enclosed room.
+** The most reliable way to destroy landed transport pods is the [[hellsphere cannon]] of a [[Diabolus]], which can destroy 25 pods and 625 wastepacks in one hit.
+A pawn can be ordered to carry any chosen item by forming caravans. Additionally, by exploitatively forming caravans, a pawn can carry in its inventory up to the total colony carrying capacity, allows rapidly disposing wastepacks. This enables the following methods:
+*'''[[Death acidifier]]s''', which exploitatively deletes wastepacks carried on a pawn with the implant on death. This does not cause pollution.
+*'''[[Subcore ripscanner]]s''', which exploitatively locks wastepacks carried on a pawn on death. The pawn's corpse can then be destroyed along with any wastepacks in its inventory. This does not cause pollution.
+*'''Pollute the [[undercave]]'''{{AnomalyIcon}}, which also helps you deal with [[fleshbeast]]s since they are not immune to [[toxic buildup]]. Pollution of the undercave does not pollute your colony in any way, and they cease to exist once its associated [[pit gate]] collapsed.
+** Note once the polluted tiles reach the Dreadmeld's room, it will slowly die of toxic buildup, triggering the cave to collapse as normal when it does.
+*'''Pollute the [[labyrinth]]'''{{AnomalyIcon}}, but you must destroy all wastepacks there, or the [[warped obelisk]] will teleport them back to your colony when you leave there.
+*'''Pollute the [[metal hell]]'''{{AnomalyIcon}}, wastepacks dropped there do not come back with your pawns.
+{{clear}}
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 == Version history ==
 * [[Biotech DLC]] Release - Added
+* [[Version/1.4.3542|1.4.3542]] - Fix: Can destroy wastepacks on temp tiles to avoid relationship penalty loss.
+* [[Version/1.4.3555|1.4.3555]] - Added more consequences for dumping near a [[faction base]].
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