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The Formal Vest is a clothing item added in the Royalty DLC. Male Nobles of Baron rank and above require either one of these, an eltex vest, or power armor to consider themselves properly dressed and avoid a negative moodlet. The Female equivalent is the Corset.

Acquisition

As a complicated garment, Formal Vests can only be made at tailor benches, and require Noble Apparel to be researched in order to be crafted. A Formal Vest requires 45 of any textile, and 12,000 ticks (3.33 mins) of work.

It can also be found on Imperial Nobles, for sale at traders and as a quest reward.

Summary

Formal vests cover the same layer of clothing as a flak vest. They can be worn over shirts and under outer layer clothing.

Male Nobles of Baron rank and above require either one of these, an eltex vest, or prestige armor to consider themselves properly dressed and avoid a negative moodlet. The female equivalent is the corset. Female pawns will receive a mood debuff while wearing this item.

When worn by a slave, a corset increases the rate that suppression is lost by 10% per day. This stacks additively with all other forms of suppression loss rate offsets.

Analysis

Even the best formal vests provide dramatically less protection than a flak vest: a masterwork thrumbofur formal vest having about as much sharp protection and worse blunt protection than an awful flak vest, which also covers the neck and shoulders. However, flak slows a pawns' movement speed by -0.12c/s, a 2.6% reduction on a healthy, unmodified, untraited pawn. This is a small, but potentially relevant downside.

If speed is critical, then the recon armor is much more expensive, but completely outclasses the duster/cape + corset combination. Thus, the protective niche for the formal vest is small - where top tier textiles like thrumbofur or devilstrand are available and where either:

movement speed is significantly more important than protection, but recon armor is not available; or
a research state where formal vests are available and flak vests are not.

Formal vests are also considered noble clothing; Barons and Counts will become upset without one. Prestige recon armor is much more expensive to create. Eltex vests boost psycasting power, but can't be crafted and protect worse than even a plainleather corset. It may be desirable to switch to flak during combat, taking the mood penalty in the process.

=Comparison

Sharp armor

Trade

As of 1.2.2900, formal vests and corsets are the most efficient method of turning textiles into products for sale, assuming the Royalty DLC is enabled and equally skilled crafters and constructors are available. Without Royalty, this role is instead taken by armchairs and dusters. This also represents a way to train skills while also profiting from the pawn-hours invested.

Note that this is only a general rule - other considerations can exist. If a skilled crafter is unavailable, or a particularly skilled constructor is, armchairs may still be a better option due to the effect of Quality on Market Value. Additionally, generally speaking when crafting or constructing a Skill Level 6 or above to guarantee, no matter the material chosen, that selling the product is more profitable than selling the materials. However, the exact skill level each material becomes profitable depends on the Work To Make of the item, the number of materials required, and the market value of the material. Lower value materials are profitable at lower skill levels. For example, cloth formal vests require only a crafting skill of 1 with a average market value modifier of 68% to average a value higher than the 67.5 of selling the cloth itself, while the most expensive textile, thrumbofur, requires a skill level of 5 to do the same. Thus, a skill level of 5 is sufficient to average profitable for formal vests for all available materials.

Material table

Material	Sharp	Blunt	Heat	Item HP	Insulation - Cold	Insulation - Heat	Market Value
Bearskin Formal vest	22.4%	4.8%	30%	130	-8 °C (-14.4 °F)	+2 °C (3.6 °F)	196
Birdskin Formal vest	13.4%	2.8%	30%	100	-4 °C (-7.2 °F)	+1 °C (1.8 °F)	124
Bluefur Formal vest	16.2%	4.8%	30%	130	-8 °C (-14.4 °F)	+1.6 °C (2.9 °F)	147
Camelhide Formal vest	16.2%	4.8%	30%	130	-6.4 °C (-11.5 °F)	+2.4 °C (4.3 °F)	147
Chinchilla fur Formal vest	13.4%	2.8%	30%	100	-12 °C (-21.6 °F)	+1.6 °C (2.9 °F)	335
Dog leather Formal vest	16.2%	4.8%	30%	130	-5.6 °C (-10.1 °F)	+1.6 °C (2.9 °F)	133
Dread leather Formal vest	25.4%	4.8%	30%	130	-8 °C (-14.4 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	200
Elephant leather Formal vest	22.4%	4.8%	30%	150	-5.6 °C (-10.1 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	152
Foxfur Formal vest	16.2%	4.2%	30%	100	-8 °C (-14.4 °F)	+1.6 °C (2.9 °F)	200
Guinea pig fur Formal vest	13.4%	2.8%	30%	60	-15.2 °C (-27.4 °F)	+1.8 °C (3.2 °F)	270
Heavy fur Formal vest	24.8%	4.8%	30%	150	-12 °C (-21.6 °F)	+1.4 °C (2.5 °F)	192
Human leather Formal vest	12.8%	4.8%	30%	130	-4.8 °C (-8.6 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	230
Lightleather Formal vest	10.8%	2.8%	30%	100	-4.8 °C (-8.6 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	129
Lizardskin Formal vest	16.2%	5.4%	30%	100	-4.8 °C (-8.6 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	138
Panthera fur Formal vest	18.6%	4.8%	30%	130	-6.4 °C (-11.5 °F)	+2.4 °C (4.3 °F)	178
Patchleather Formal vest	9%	3.8%	18%	100	-3.6 °C (-6.5 °F)	+0.9 °C (1.6 °F)	111
Pigskin Formal vest	12.8%	4.8%	30%	130	-4.8 °C (-8.6 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	129
Plainleather Formal vest	16.2%	4.8%	30%	130	-6.4 °C (-11.5 °F)	+1.6 °C (2.9 °F)	138
Rhinoceros leather Formal vest	25.8%	4.8%	30%	150	-5.6 °C (-10.1 °F)	+1.4 °C (2.5 °F)	230
Thrumbofur Formal vest	41.6%	7.2%	30%	200	-13.6 °C (-24.5 °F)	+2.2 °C (4 °F)	675
Wolfskin Formal vest	20.4%	4.8%	30%	130	-9.6 °C (-17.3 °F)	+1.6 °C (2.9 °F)	178
Alpaca wool Formal vest	7.2%	0%	22%	100	-12 °C (-21.6 °F)	+1.6 °C (2.9 °F)	215
Bison wool Formal vest	7.2%	0%	22%	100	-10.4 °C (-18.7 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	165
Cloth Formal vest	7.2%	0%	3.6%	100	-7.2 °C (-13 °F)	+1.8 °C (3.2 °F)	111
Devilstrand Formal vest	28%	7.2%	60%	130	-8 °C (-14.4 °F)	+2.4 °C (4.3 °F)	290
Hyperweave Formal vest	40%	10.8%	57.6%	240	-10.4 °C (-18.7 °F)	+2.6 °C (4.7 °F)	450
Megasloth wool Formal vest	16%	0%	22%	100	-13.6 °C (-24.5 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	165
Muffalo wool Formal vest	7.2%	0%	22%	100	-11.2 °C (-20.2 °F)	+1.2 °C (2.2 °F)	165
Sheep wool Formal vest	7.2%	0%	22%	100	-10.4 °C (-18.7 °F)	+1 °C (1.8 °F)	165
Synthread Formal vest	18.8%	5.2%	18%	130	-8.8 °C (-15.8 °F)	+2.2 °C (4 °F)	225

^{Assuming Normal quality, for the effect of other qualities, see Quality.}

Version history

Royalty DLC initial release - Added.
1.1.2579 - no longer covers the arms, neck and shoulders.
1.2.2753 - work to make 3000 -> 12000

Apparel

Torso | Clothing: Button-down shirt • T-shirt (Kid ) • Tribalwear (Kid )
: Corset • Eltex shirt • Eltex vest • Formal vest • Formal shirt
: Slave collar
: Sash • Kid romper
Armor: Flak vest
Legs | Clothing: Pants (Kid )
Armor: Flak pants
Shell | Clothing: Duster • Jacket • Parka (Kid ) • Robe
: Cape • Eltex robe • Prestige robe
: Burka • Slave body strap
: Heavy bandolier
: Lab coat
Armor: Flak jacket • Marine armor (Prestige , Grenadier ) • Plate armor • Recon armor (Prestige , Locust , Mechlord ) • Cataphract armor (Prestige , Phoenix )
Head | Clothing: Bowler hat • Cowboy hat • Hood • Psychic foil helmet • Tuque • Tribal headdress • Veil • War mask
: Beret • Coronet • Crown • Eltex helmet • Eltex skullcap • Ladies hat • Stellic crown • Top hat
: Authority cap • Blindfold • Broadwrap • Flophat • Headwrap • Shadecone • Slicecap • Tailcap • Torture crown • Visage mask
: Airwire headset • Array headset • Gas mask • Face mask
: Ceremonial hood • Ritual mask
Armor: Flak helmet • Marine helmet (Prestige/Samurai helmet ) • Recon helmet (Prestige , Mechlord ) • Simple helmet (Kid ) • Cataphract helmet (Prestige ) • Gunlink • Integrator headset • Mechcommander helmet

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 == Summary ==
-When worn by a [[slave]],{{IdeologyIcon}} a formal vest increases the rate that [[suppression]] is lost by 10% per day. This stacks additively with all other forms of suppression loss rate offsets.
+Formal vests cover the same layer of clothing as a [[flak vest]]. They can be worn over shirts and under outer layer clothing.
+Male [[Titles|Nobles]] of Baron rank and above require either one of these, an [[eltex vest]], or [[prestige armor]] to consider themselves properly dressed and avoid a negative moodlet. The female equivalent is the [[corset]]. Female pawns will receive a mood debuff while wearing this item.
+When worn by a [[slave]],{{IdeologyIcon}} a corset increases the rate that [[suppression]] is lost by 10% per day. This stacks additively with all other forms of suppression loss rate offsets.
 == Analysis ==
-Formal vests, along with their female counterparts - corsets, are unique in the noble clothes in that they don't have a direct regular clothing equivalent. Instead they take the slot of a [[flak vest]]. Compared to flak vests, even the most protective formal vests provide dramatically less protection than a flak vest, with a [[Quality|masterwork]] [[thrumbofur]] formal vest having about as much sharp protection and worse blunt protection than an [[Quality|awful]] flak vest. The formal vest also neglects the cover the vital neck, as well as the shoulders. However, flak vest slow the pawns movement speed by -0.12c/s, a 2.6% reduction on a healthy, [[Artificial body parts|unmodified]], [[Traits#Speed_Traits|untraited]] pawn. A small but still potentially relevant debuff in some circumstances.
+Even the best formal vests provide dramatically less protection than a flak vest: a [[Quality|masterwork]] [[thrumbofur]] formal vest having about as much sharp protection and worse blunt protection than an [[Quality|awful]] flak vest, which also covers the neck and shoulders. However, flak slows a pawns' movement speed by -0.12c/s, a 2.6% reduction on a healthy, [[Artificial body parts|unmodified]], [[Traits#Speed_Traits|untraited]] pawn. This is a small, but potentially relevant downside.
-With this consideration, the gameplay choice is one between significantly enhanced protection with the slight reduction in speed speed or choosing to not suffer reduced speed, but still wear a middle layer protective garment. If movement speed is vital, [[recon armor]] is outright superior if available. Thus the protective niche for the formal vest is small - where top tier textiles like thrumbofur or [[devilstrand]] are available '''''and''''' where either:
-# movement speed is significantly more important than protection but recon armor is not available; or
-# a [[research]] state where formal vest are available and flak vests are not.
-Despite their superior protection, flak vests do not meet a noble's clothing requirements however. In this case, equipping the noble with [[Prestige recon armor]], [[Prestige marine armor]], or [[Prestige cataphract armor]] when expecting combat is by far the superior choice, as all three both offer significant protection and meet the clothing requirements. Alternatively, the mood penalty from using the flak vest can just be withstood during combat, and the pawn switch back to the formal vest afterwards.
+If speed is critical, then the [[recon armor]] is much more expensive, but completely outclasses the [[duster]]/[[cape]] + [[corset]] combination. Thus, the protective niche for the formal vest is small - where top tier textiles like thrumbofur or [[devilstrand]] are available '''''and''''' where either:
+# movement speed is significantly more important than protection, but recon armor is not available; or
+# a [[research]] state where formal vests are available and flak vests are not.
-Female pawns will receive a mood debuff while wearing this item.
+Formal vests are also considered noble clothing; Barons and Counts will become upset without one. [[Prestige recon armor]] is much more expensive to create. [[Eltex vest]]s boost [[psycast]]ing power, but can't be crafted and protect worse than even a plainleather corset. It may be desirable to switch to flak during combat, taking the mood penalty in the process.
+====Comparison===
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