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| description = The base chance this person will successfully tame an animal on any given attempt. The actual chance is also affected by the animal's wildness. | | description = The base chance this person will successfully tame an animal on any given attempt. The actual chance is also affected by the animal's wildness. | ||
Failed tame attempt can induce animal attacks, especially for more vicious animals. | Failed tame attempt can induce animal attacks, especially for more vicious animals. | ||
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* [[Talking]]: [[Talking Importance::0.9|90%]] importance, 20% allowed defect. [[Talking Limit::1|100%]] limit | * [[Talking]]: [[Talking Importance::0.9|90%]] importance, 20% allowed defect. [[Talking Limit::1|100%]] limit | ||
* [[Hearing]]: [[Hearing Importance::0.3|30%]] importance, 5% allowed defect. [[Hearing Limit::1|100%]] limit | * [[Hearing]]: [[Hearing Importance::0.3|30%]] importance, 5% allowed defect. [[Hearing Limit::1|100%]] limit | ||
| − | * [[Ideoligion#Animal connection|Animal Connection]] | + | * Precepts{{IdeologyIcon}} multipliers: |
| + | ** [[Ideoligion#Animal connection|Animal Connection]] duplicates the chance. | ||
| + | ** [[Ideoligion#Ranching|Ranching]] multiplies the chance by 1.2. | ||
* Animal's [[Wildness]]: A value between 0% to 100%. At 0%, taming chance get doubled, while at 100% it becomes impossible. It has no effect at 50%.<ref>The effects of wildness are obtained from a post-processing curve (also called '''simple curve''') on the function TameChanceFactorCurve_Wildness with the points (1,0);(0.5,1);(0,2). While the formula <code>2 * (1 - [[wildness]])</code> replicates the effects, the difference is that this factor can't go above 2 nor below 0.</ref> | * Animal's [[Wildness]]: A value between 0% to 100%. At 0%, taming chance get doubled, while at 100% it becomes impossible. It has no effect at 50%.<ref>The effects of wildness are obtained from a post-processing curve (also called '''simple curve''') on the function TameChanceFactorCurve_Wildness with the points (1,0);(0.5,1);(0,2). While the formula <code>2 * (1 - [[wildness]])</code> replicates the effects, the difference is that this factor can't go above 2 nor below 0.</ref> | ||
** Despite being human, [[wildman]] have 75% Wildness. | ** Despite being human, [[wildman]] have 75% Wildness. | ||
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While not directly related to this stat, some other relevant factors for the actual tame chance are: | While not directly related to this stat, some other relevant factors for the actual tame chance are: | ||
| − | * If the animal is [[Ideoligion#Venerated_animals|venerated]] by the tamer's ideoligion{{IdeologyIcon}}, the chance | + | * If the animal is [[Ideoligion#Venerated_animals|venerated]] by the tamer's ideoligion{{IdeologyIcon}}, the chance is doubled. |
* If the tamer is [[bond]]ed with the animal to be tamed, the chance is multiplied by 4. | * If the tamer is [[bond]]ed with the animal to be tamed, the chance is multiplied by 4. | ||
| − | * If the pawn to be tamed is imprisoned, the chance is multiplied by 0.6 | + | * If the pawn to be tamed is imprisoned, the chance is multiplied by 0.6. |
Do note that a pawn with [[Mental_inspiration#Inspired taming| Inspired taming]] will always be successful as long as it meets the Minimum Handling requirement. | Do note that a pawn with [[Mental_inspiration#Inspired taming| Inspired taming]] will always be successful as long as it meets the Minimum Handling requirement. | ||
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== Formula == | == Formula == | ||
The formula proper is:<br/> | The formula proper is:<br/> | ||
| − | <code><big>'''Tame chance''' = [[ | + | <code><big>'''Tame chance''' = [[Skills#Animals|Animals]] * 2 * (1 - [[wildness]]) * Manipulation Offset * Talking Offset * Hearing Offset</big></code><br/> |
<code><big>'''"X" Offset''' = Min( 1; ( ( 1 - X importance ) + X importance * X efficiency / (1 - X Allowed Defect) ) )</big></code> | <code><big>'''"X" Offset''' = Min( 1; ( ( 1 - X importance ) + X importance * X efficiency / (1 - X Allowed Defect) ) )</big></code> | ||
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For the case that Manipulation is above 80%, Hearing above 80%, and Talking above 95%, the formula can be reduced to:<br/> | For the case that Manipulation is above 80%, Hearing above 80%, and Talking above 95%, the formula can be reduced to:<br/> | ||
| − | :<code><big>'''Tame chance''' = [[ | + | :<code><big>'''Tame chance''' = [[Skills#Animals|Animals]] * 2 * (1 - [[wildness]])</big></code><br/> |
| − | Do note that additional factors mentioned above would apply over this calculated value to obtain the final tame chance. | + | Do note that additional factors mentioned above (venerated status{{IdeologyIcon}}, bond, imprisoned status) would apply over this calculated value to obtain the final tame chance. Precepts{{IdeologyIcon}} bonuses are technically evaluated before factoring wildness, but can be applied at this stage with no issue. |
'''Example:'''<br/> | '''Example:'''<br/> | ||
| − | :A tamer with 13 handling skill has a <code>[4% base] + [3% * 13] = '''42%'''</code> base taming chance. If said pawn attempts to tame a [[Timber wolf]], Minimum Handling of 8, the | + | :A tamer with 13 handling skill has a <code>[4% base] + [3% * 13] = '''42%'''</code> base taming chance. If said pawn attempts to tame a [[Timber wolf]], Minimum Handling of 8, the taming chance would be reduced by its '''85% wildness''', resulting in a <code>42% * 2 * ( 1 - 85% wildness ) = '''12.90%''' </code> taming chance. |
| − | :If additionally, this pawn suffers from [[Hearing loss]] on either ear, the taming chance would be <code> | + | :If additionally, this pawn suffers from [[Hearing loss]] on either ear, the taming chance would be <code>42% * 2 * ( 1 - 85%) * (70% + 6/19 * 87.5%) = '''12.30%''' </code>. |
| − | + | The table below shows the base taming chance<ref>The precepts{{IdeologyIcon}} [[Ideoligion#Animal connection|Animal Connection]] and [[Ideoligion#Ranching|Ranching]] multiply this change by 2/1.2, respectively.</ref> for all vanilla combinations of wildness and [[Skills#Animals|Animals skill]]. All values assume Manipulation, Hearing, and Talking values high enough to not alter Tame chance. Do note that not all results are possible in normal gameplay; [[Minimum Handling Skill|Minimum Handling]] is decided by the wildness of the animal in question, removing some combinations. As such, the first Animals skill level that allows interaction with an animal of a given wildness is colored dark green. | |
| − | The table below shows the | ||
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Latest revision as of 20:09, 6 September 2024
Tame Animal Chance is a stat: The base chance this person will successfully tame an animal on any given attempt. The actual chance is also affected by the animal's wildness. Failed tame attempt can induce animal attacks, especially for more vicious animals. Its default value is 100%.
Factors[edit]
- Animals: 4% plus 3% per skill level.
- Manipulation: 50% importance, 20% allowed defect. 100% limit
- Talking: 90% importance, 20% allowed defect. 100% limit
- Hearing: 30% importance, 5% allowed defect. 100% limit
- Precepts
multipliers:
- Animal Connection duplicates the chance.
- Ranching multiplies the chance by 1.2.
- Animal's Wildness: A value between 0% to 100%. At 0%, taming chance get doubled, while at 100% it becomes impossible. It has no effect at 50%.[1]
- Despite being human, wildman have 75% Wildness.
- Do note that this factor is applied after all others excluding the 3 below.
While not directly related to this stat, some other relevant factors for the actual tame chance are:
- If the animal is venerated by the tamer's ideoligion, the chance is doubled.
- If the tamer is bonded with the animal to be tamed, the chance is multiplied by 4.
- If the pawn to be tamed is imprisoned, the chance is multiplied by 0.6.
Do note that a pawn with Inspired taming will always be successful as long as it meets the Minimum Handling requirement.
Formula[edit]
The formula proper is:
Tame chance = Animals * 2 * (1 - wildness) * Manipulation Offset * Talking Offset * Hearing Offset
"X" Offset = Min( 1; ( ( 1 - X importance ) + X importance * X efficiency / (1 - X Allowed Defect) ) )
Replacing values for Manipulation, Talking, and Hearing results on the following expressions:
Manipulation Offset = Min( 1; ( 0.5 + 5/8 * Manipulation ) )Talking Offset = Min( 1; ( 0.1 + 9/8 * Talking ) )Hearing Offset = Min( 1; ( 0.7 + 6/19 * Hearing ) )
With all of the above, the final formula is:
Tame chance = ( 0.04 + 0.03 * Animals skill ) * 2 * (1 - wildness) * Min( 1; ( 0.5 + 5/8 * Manipulation ) ) * Min( 1; ( 0.1 + 9/8 * Talking ) ) * Min( 1; ( 0.7 + 6/19 * Hearing ) )
For the case that Manipulation is above 80%, Hearing above 80%, and Talking above 95%, the formula can be reduced to:
Do note that additional factors mentioned above (venerated status, bond, imprisoned status) would apply over this calculated value to obtain the final tame chance. Precepts bonuses are technically evaluated before factoring wildness, but can be applied at this stage with no issue.
Example:
- A tamer with 13 handling skill has a
[4% base] + [3% * 13] = 42%base taming chance. If said pawn attempts to tame a Timber wolf, Minimum Handling of 8, the taming chance would be reduced by its 85% wildness, resulting in a42% * 2 * ( 1 - 85% wildness ) = 12.90%taming chance.
- If additionally, this pawn suffers from Hearing loss on either ear, the taming chance would be
42% * 2 * ( 1 - 85%) * (70% + 6/19 * 87.5%) = 12.30%.
The table below shows the base taming chance[2] for all vanilla combinations of wildness and Animals skill. All values assume Manipulation, Hearing, and Talking values high enough to not alter Tame chance. Do note that not all results are possible in normal gameplay; Minimum Handling is decided by the wildness of the animal in question, removing some combinations. As such, the first Animals skill level that allows interaction with an animal of a given wildness is colored dark green.
| Animals skill |
Base chance |
Wildness | Animals skill | ||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0% | 20% | 25% | 30% | 35% | 40% | 45% | 50% | 55% | 60% | 75% | 80% | 85% | 90% | 95% | 97% | 98.5% | |||
| 0 | 4.00% | 8.00% | 6.40% | 6.00% | 5.60% | 5.20% | 4.80% | 4.40% | 4.00% | 3.60% | 3.20% | 2.00% | 1.60% | 1.20% | 0.80% | 0.40% | 0.24% | 0.12% | 0 |
| 1 | 7.00% | 14.00% | 11.20% | 10.50% | 9.80% | 9.10% | 8.40% | 7.70% | 7.00% | 6.30% | 5.60% | 3.50% | 2.80% | 2.10% | 1.40% | 0.70% | 0.42% | 0.21% | 1 |
| 2 | 10.00% | 20.00% | 16.00% | 15.00% | 14.00% | 13.00% | 12.00% | 11.00% | 10.00% | 9.00% | 8.00% | 5.00% | 4.00% | 3.00% | 2.00% | 1.00% | 0.60% | 0.30% | 2 |
| 3 | 13.00% | 26.00% | 20.80% | 19.50% | 18.20% | 16.90% | 15.60% | 14.30% | 13.00% | 11.70% | 10.40% | 6.50% | 5.20% | 3.90% | 2.60% | 1.30% | 0.78% | 0.39% | 3 |
| 4 | 16.00% | 32.00% | 25.60% | 24.00% | 22.40% | 20.80% | 19.20% | 17.60% | 16.00% | 14.40% | 12.80% | 8.00% | 6.40% | 4.80% | 3.20% | 1.60% | 0.96% | 0.48% | 4 |
| 5 | 19.00% | 38.00% | 30.40% | 28.50% | 26.60% | 24.70% | 22.80% | 20.90% | 19.00% | 17.10% | 15.20% | 9.50% | 7.60% | 5.70% | 3.80% | 1.90% | 1.14% | 0.57% | 5 |
| 6 | 22.00% | 44.00% | 35.20% | 33.00% | 30.80% | 28.60% | 26.40% | 24.20% | 22.00% | 19.80% | 17.60% | 11.00% | 8.80% | 6.60% | 4.40% | 2.20% | 1.32% | 0.66% | 6 |
| 7 | 25.00% | 50.00% | 40.00% | 37.50% | 35.00% | 32.50% | 30.00% | 27.50% | 25.00% | 22.50% | 20.00% | 12.50% | 10.00% | 7.50% | 5.00% | 2.50% | 1.50% | 0.75% | 7 |
| 8 | 28.00% | 56.00% | 44.80% | 42.00% | 39.20% | 36.40% | 33.60% | 30.80% | 28.00% | 25.20% | 22.40% | 14.00% | 11.20% | 8.40% | 5.60% | 2.80% | 1.68% | 0.84% | 8 |
| 9 | 31.00% | 62.00% | 49.60% | 46.50% | 43.40% | 40.30% | 37.20% | 34.10% | 31.00% | 27.90% | 24.80% | 15.50% | 12.40% | 9.30% | 6.20% | 3.10% | 1.86% | 0.93% | 9 |
| 10 | 34.00% | 68.00% | 54.40% | 51.00% | 47.60% | 44.20% | 40.80% | 37.40% | 34.00% | 30.60% | 27.20% | 17.00% | 13.60% | 10.20% | 6.80% | 3.40% | 2.04% | 1.02% | 10 |
| 11 | 37.00% | 74.00% | 59.20% | 55.50% | 51.80% | 48.10% | 44.40% | 40.70% | 37.00% | 33.30% | 29.60% | 18.50% | 14.80% | 11.10% | 7.40% | 3.70% | 2.22% | 1.11% | 11 |
| 12 | 40.00% | 80.00% | 64.00% | 60.00% | 56.00% | 52.00% | 48.00% | 44.00% | 40.00% | 36.00% | 32.00% | 20.00% | 16.00% | 12.00% | 8.00% | 4.00% | 2.40% | 1.20% | 12 |
| 13 | 43.00% | 86.00% | 68.80% | 64.50% | 60.20% | 55.90% | 51.60% | 47.30% | 43.00% | 38.70% | 34.40% | 21.50% | 17.20% | 12.90% | 8.60% | 4.30% | 2.58% | 1.29% | 13 |
| 14 | 46.00% | 92.00% | 73.60% | 69.00% | 64.40% | 59.80% | 55.20% | 50.60% | 46.00% | 41.40% | 36.80% | 23.00% | 18.40% | 13.80% | 9.20% | 4.60% | 2.76% | 1.38% | 14 |
| 15 | 49.00% | 98.00% | 78.40% | 73.50% | 68.60% | 63.70% | 58.80% | 53.90% | 49.00% | 44.10% | 39.20% | 24.50% | 19.60% | 14.70% | 9.80% | 4.90% | 2.94% | 1.47% | 15 |
| 16 | 52.00% | 104.00% | 83.20% | 78.00% | 72.80% | 67.60% | 62.40% | 57.20% | 52.00% | 46.80% | 41.60% | 26.00% | 20.80% | 15.60% | 10.40% | 5.20% | 3.12% | 1.56% | 16 |
| 17 | 55.00% | 110.00% | 88.00% | 82.50% | 77.00% | 71.50% | 66.00% | 60.50% | 55.00% | 49.50% | 44.00% | 27.50% | 22.00% | 16.50% | 11.00% | 5.50% | 3.30% | 1.65% | 17 |
| 18 | 58.00% | 116.00% | 92.80% | 87.00% | 81.20% | 75.40% | 69.60% | 63.80% | 58.00% | 52.20% | 46.40% | 29.00% | 23.20% | 17.40% | 11.60% | 5.80% | 3.48% | 1.74% | 18 |
| 19 | 61.00% | 122.00% | 97.60% | 91.50% | 85.40% | 79.30% | 73.20% | 67.10% | 61.00% | 54.90% | 48.80% | 30.50% | 24.40% | 18.30% | 12.20% | 6.10% | 3.66% | 1.83% | 19 |
| 20 | 64.00% | 128.00% | 102.40% | 96.00% | 89.60% | 83.20% | 76.80% | 70.40% | 64.00% | 57.60% | 51.20% | 32.00% | 25.60% | 19.20% | 12.80% | 6.40% | 3.84% | 1.92% | 20 |
- Capacities
- Pain • Consciousness • Moving • Manipulation • Talking • Eating • Sight • Hearing • Breathing • Blood Filtration • Blood Pumping • Digestion
- Basics - Important
- Market Value • Market Value Ignoring Hitpoints • Honor Value
- Basics - Non Pawn Important
- Nutrition • Medical Potency • Medical Tend Quality Maximum • Max Hit Points
- Basics - Basics
- Mass • Flammability • Psychic Sensitivity Factor • Psychic Sensitivity Offset • Neural Heat Limit Offset • Neural Heat Recovery Rate Offset • Slave Suppression Offset • Terror (Source) • Max Install Count
- Basics - Pawn
- Recreation Fall Rate • Sleep Fall Rate • Eating Speed • Foraged Food Amount • Minimum Handling Skill • Mental Break Threshold • Immunity Gain Speed • Pain Shock Threshold • Lifespan Factor • Minimum Comfortable Temperature • Maximum Comfortable Temperature • Injury Healing Factor • Caravan Riding Speed • Carrying Capacity • Filth Rate • Crawl Speed • Move Speed • Max Nutrition • Rest Rate Multiplier • Toxic Environment Resistance • Toxic Resistance • Animals Learning Factor • Global Learning Factor • Neural Heat Limit • Psychic Sensitivity • Leather Amount • Meat Amount • Neural Heat Recovery Rate • Meditation Psyfocus Gain • Neural Heat Gain (Factor) • Ideoligion Spread Chance • Global Certainty Loss Factor • Terror • Raw Nutrition Multiplier • Learning Rate Factor • Cancer Rate Factor • Fertility • Hemogen Gain Multiplier
- Basics - Non Pawn
- Construction Speed (Material Factor) • Deterioration Rate • Sell Price Multiplier • Beauty • Outdoor Beauty • Cleanliness • Comfort • Work To Make • Food Poison Chance (Food Stat) • Shooting Accuracy (Turrets) • Style Dominance
- Mechanoid
- EMP Resistance • Bandwidth Cost • Energy Usage Multiplier • Wastepacks Per Recharge • Control Taking Time • Repair Energy Cost
- Apparel
- Armor - Material Effect Multiplier • Insulation - Cold - Material Effect Multiplier • Insulation - Heat - Material Effect Multiplier • Equip Delay • Pack Radius • Shield Recharge Rate • Shield Max Energy • Insulation - Heat • Insulation - Cold • Armor - Heat • Armor - Blunt • Armor - Sharp • Jump Range
- Weapon (Ranged)
- Ranged Damage Multiplier • Ranged Cooldown • Accuracy (Long) • Accuracy (Medium) • Accuracy (Short) • Accuracy (Close)
- Weapon (Melee)
- Melee Damage Multiplier • Melee Weapon Average Armor Penetration • Melee Damage Per Second
- Building
- Research Speed Factor • Max Power Output • Medical Tend Quality Offset • Work Speed Factor • Work Efficiency Factor • Work To Build • Door Opening Speed • Rest Effectiveness • Immunity Gain Speed Factor • Recreation Power • Surgery Success Chance Factor • Reading Bonus • Trap Spring Chance • Trap Melee Damage • Biosculpter Pod Speed Factor • Assembly Speed Factor • Baby Play Power • Birth Quality Offset • Genetic Complexity Increase
- Ability
- Detection Chance • Goodwill Impact • Effect Radius • Duration • Range • Psyfocus Cost • Neural Heat Gain • Casting Time • Psylink Level
- Stuff Stat Factors (Multipliers when made of this)
- Melee Cooldown • Sharp Damage • Blunt Damage • Insulation - Heat (Material Factor) • Insulation - Cold (Material Factor) • Armor - Heat (Material Factor) • Armor - Blunt (Material Factor) • Armor - Sharp (Material Factor)
- Mechanitor
- Mech Bandwidth • Mech Control Groups • Mech Gestation Speed • Mech Remote Repair Distance • Mech Remote Shield Distance • Mech Remote Shield Energy • Mech Repair Speed • Subcore Encoding Speed • Mech Work Speed Offset
- Pawn - Combat
- Stagger Time Multiplier • Ranged Cooldown Multiplier • Aiming Time • Pawn Trap Spring Chance • Incoming Damage Multiplier • Accuracy Factor (Long) • Accuracy Factor (Medium) • Accuracy Factor (Short) • Accuracy Factor (Close) • Shooting Accuracy (Indoors Dark • Indoors Lit • Outdoors Dark • Outdoors Lit ) • Mortar Miss Radius Multiplier • Melee Armor Penetration • Melee Dodge Chance (Indoors Dark • Indoors Lit • Outdoors Night • Outdoors Day ) • Melee Hit Chance (Indoors Dark • Indoors Lit • Outdoors Dark • Outdoors Lit ) • Melee DPS • Melee Damage Factor • Melee Cooldown • Melee Door Damage Factor • Shooting Accuracy Multiplier (Child)
- Pawn - Social
- Bond Chance Factor • Train Animal Chance • Tame Animal Chance • Arrest Success Chance • Pawn Beauty • Social Impact • Drug Sell Price Improvement • Trade Price Improvement • Negotiation Ability • Suppression Power • Conversion Power • Slave Suppression Fall Rate • Animal Products Price Improvement
- Pawn - Work
- Cleaning Speed Multiplier • Butchery Speed • Mechanoid Shredding Speed • Hunting Stealth • Research Speed • Smelting Speed • Smoothing Speed • Animal Gather Speed • Animal Gather Yield • Drug Cooking Speed • Drug Synthesis Speed • Butchery Efficiency • Mechanoid Shredding Efficiency • Cooking Speed • Food Poison Chance • Plant Work Speed • Plant Harvest Yield • Drug Crop Harvest Yield • Reading Speed • Repair Success Chance • Construct Success Chance • Construction Speed • Medical Tend Speed • Medical Tend Quality • Medical Operation Speed • Medical Surgery Success Chance • Mining Speed • Deep Drilling Speed • Mining Yield • General Labor Speed • Global Work Speed • Hacking Speed • Pruning Speed • Activity Suppression Speed
• Study Efficiency • Entity Study Rate - Hidden
- Bed Hunger Rate Multiplier
Notes[edit]
- ↑ The effects of wildness are obtained from a post-processing curve (also called simple curve) on the function TameChanceFactorCurve_Wildness with the points (1,0);(0.5,1);(0,2). While the formula
2 * (1 - wildness)replicates the effects, the difference is that this factor can't go above 2 nor below 0. - ↑ The precepts Animal Connection and Ranching multiply this change by 2/1.2, respectively.